Runningman, you are sooo right. There are constant reminders ( at meetings, in their literature ect ) on how to donate and leave things of value to the organization. I guess for Jehovah to provide, the congregation needs a little nudging from Crooklyn.
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Where does the $ come from?
by azaria ini had a conversation with a jw lady recently and she proudly stated that they didn't pass the collection plate, like the churches do.
to me a rose by any other name is still a rose.
to pay the bills ( hall, hydro, phone, charity etc, etc) the money has to come from somewhere.
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They were at my door Saturday
by scumrat ini had just got home after running some errands when i noticed 2 sisters at my door.
i got out of my car and asked if i could help them.
they started with their typical opening.
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I had just got home after running some errands when I noticed 2 sisters at my door. I got out of my car and asked if I could help them. They started with their typical opening. I played dumb and asked them what organization they were from, and they said Jehovahs Witnesses. I then said "aren't you the group with the massive pedophile problem" ? They had no idea what I was talking about. So I told them to wait there. I went up to get my saved copy of the Aug. 2002 NY Times with the article on the JW pedophile problem. ( I was saving it for just such an ocasion ) Well when I came back down, there was a brother at the stoop and the sisters were in the background. So I opened up the paper and pointed to the article and said, "see, this is what I'm talking about, this article says people are suing your religion for covering up sex abuse and that your religion is ex-comunicating members who expose it" . This brother was smooth, he did not flinch.
He says "well that's an old article" and the people in it were dis-gruntled. So I ask him " why would they be dis-gruntled?" He said, probably because of some things that went on in the congregation, and I said, "like sex abuse?" I wasn't going to let him get away with giving me some bullshit answer. So he says, we tell the people in the congregation to report these matters to the police. Matter a fact, we just sent all our files to them. So I ask him why would you send those files to the police when it was already reported to them? He says well, in some states it's not mandatory to report abuse. So I ask, as a christian don't you think you have a moral obligation to report it, whether it's mandatory or not? He then says well that article is old, have you read anything new on JW's? I said no, and he says that I should go to the library and look up information on them. I asked, Is there anything on the internet about them? He says yes but I would probably find a lot of negative information on the net just like the information in the article. Then he proceeds to give me the official Watchtower website and says, this is where you'll find accurate information. He also tells me that I could call NY and speak to JR Brown.
By this time I was getting tired of going back and forth and said I got to go. Then for whatever the reason, the sister in the background says she wants to read a scripture to me. She proceeds to read the one about Satan roaving around the earth like a roaring lion. Go figure...... All and all it was the best day I had out in service.
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They were at my door Saturday
by scumrat ini had just got home after running some errands when i noticed 2 sisters at my door.
i got out of my car and asked if i could help them.
they started with their typical opening.
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I had just got home after running some errands when I noticed 2 sisters at my door. I got out of my car and asked if I could help them. They started with their typical opening. I played dumb and asked them what organization they were from, and they said Jehovahs Witnesses. I then said "aren't you the group with the massive pedophile problem" ? They had no idea what I was talking about. So I told them to wait there. I went up to get my saved copy of the Aug. 2002 NY Times with the article on the JW pedophile problem. ( I was saving it for just such an ocasion ) Well when I came back down, there was a brother at the stoop and the sisters were in the background. So I opened up the paper and pointed to the article and said, "see, this is what I'm talking about, this article says people are suing your religion for covering up sex abuse and that your religion is ex-comunicating members who expose it" . This brother was smooth, he did not flinch.
He says "well that's an old article" and the people in it were dis-gruntled. So I ask him " why would they be dis-gruntled?" He said, probably because of some things that went on in the congregation, and I said, "like sex abuse?" I wasn't going to let him get away with giving me some bullshit answer. So he says, we tell the people in the congregation to report these matters to the police. Matter a fact, we just sent all our files to them. So I ask him why would you send those files to the police when it was already reported to them? He says well, in some states it's not mandatory to report abuse. So I ask, as a christian don't you think you have a moral obligation to report it, whether it's mandatory or not? He then says well that article is old, have you read anything new on JW's? I said no, and he says that I should go to the library and look up information on them. I asked, Is there anything on the internet about them? He says yes but I would probably find a lot of negative information on the net just like the information in the article. Then he proceeds to give me the official Watchtower website and says, this is where you'll find accurate information. He also tells me that I could call NY and speak to JR Brown.
By this time I was getting tired of going back and forth and said I got to go. Then for whatever the reason, the sister in the background says she wants to read a scripture to me. She proceeds to read the one about Satan roaving around the earth like a roaring lion. Go figure...... All and all it was the best day I had out in service.
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DakotaRed Has Been Spoiled
by DakotaRed inas many know, witchywoman came to visit me this past week and returned home today.
all in all, it was the most wonderful 4 days we have both spent in a very long time.
having her with me was very comfortable and felt so natural.. i cooked meals everyday, to impress her of some of my other talents, of course .
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Best Wishes.
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Memorial for a friend: Huge Success
by RAYZORBLADE infirst off i'd like to say a huge thank you to so many of you for posting to my topic regarding my friend's memorial a couple of weeks ago.
all of the information was read and all suggestions considered, and many were utilized.
i figured that at least a couple of you on this forum would be able to contribute to what was then, my upcoming involvement in my friend's memorial.
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That was a touching way to honor your friend.
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Tattoo Removal
by scumrat ini have two tattoos.
however there is one i would like to have removed.
has anyone had one removed before?
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I have two tattoos. However there is one I would like to have removed. Has anyone had one removed before? How did you have it done and how much did it cost? Any information would be helpfull. Thanks.
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I am so glad I am moving!
by simplesally ini am moving next week!
i sold my townhouse and have bought a house!
it's almost double the size of where we live now.
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Hey Simplesally, Congrats on the new home. It will be a good feeling not to have to go to those old places where you were shunned. Life will be refreshing with your change. My girlfriend and I are currently working on our plan for a similar change.
Best of luck, Scumrat
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Bridgewater, Massachusetts
by RAYZORBLADE ini'm going out on a limb here.
i have been racking my brain as of late, trying to remember names and faces of long ago.
no, i did not attend any congregation in massachusetts, ever.
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Yea, Dwight Donnelly married Diane Hodgeson from Bridgewater. I think it was around the early 80's. He seemed like a rather boring person. Diane was a pioneer. Last I heard he was an elder. That congregation had a lot of problems with covering up sexual abuse. I wouldn't be surprised if it was hit with a lawsuit.
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What do you think when you go by a Kingdom Hall?
by TresHappy ini drive by a kh every day, since it's very close to my work route, and i was wondering if anyone else secretly cheers that they don't have to go back into one of those things.
when i see a few cars parked there on the weekday, i am so thankful i don't have to go out and talk that stuff to strangers.
any thoughts?
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I drive by my old kingdum hall every day on my way to work. I usually flip them the bird.