Posts by Atman

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What Would You Like To Ask Any Poster Here?

by minimus in

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i'd like to ask undercover why he has so many responses that are similar to what i think?.

finally free, are you really as cranky as you seem?.

Atman

Says someone who's been here for 3 years!

Broken Promise has it really been that long? Time sure does fly! I post a lot too don't I?

Atman - why are you here? Loz x

I'm here mostly searching for answers. My background as a jw very young in life left me wondering about the cult. I also have some friends and family who are jw's. I wonder why they say and think some of the stuff they do so I look here and other forums. I find the social dynamics here to be fascinating, I just don't take the time to participate much I'm too busy living life, getting a life, studying in school. Hope that helps you understand me a bit better. Peace, out.

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What Would You Like To Ask Any Poster Here?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i'd like to ask undercover why he has so many responses that are similar to what i think?.

finally free, are you really as cranky as you seem?.

Atman

I've always wondered why so many of you leave a cult only to chain yourselves to this forum 24/7? I understand the need to heal, and to help others, but really for years?

When is enough enough?

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Toxic Relationships

by serenitynow! in

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i have had it with my mother.

i've spoken on the board before about her.

she is fanatically religious, often keeps me on the phone for hours while she talks endlessly about the bible.

Atman

She is fanatically religious, often keeps me on the phone for hours while she talks endlessly about the bible. Attempts to steer her to other topics are never successful.
Toxic people have toxic relationships. A healthy person can move beyond and not engage a toxic person. It truly does take two to tangle. We all have the ability to create the life we want and if you no longer want to have a relationship with your mother because you are not able to (at this time) separate her emotional blackmail from your need to have a mother/daughter relationship, one could say the proverbial writing is on the wall. You my dear have some growing to do and when you are stronger you will not mind having a casual relationship with your mother. Take the good, ignore the bad.
There are ways to grow, mature and become strong without totally cutting a toxic person out of your life. You define how you want to be treated and when you wish or don't wish to engage them. Funny thing about phones, texting, email....ect...we can control when we want to use them or not.
Think about it. Life is not all black and white, this or that we have other options, think about yours and what you truly want and how you contribute to the outcome.
Peace, out.

Anyone experience Harry Palmer's Avatar course?

by Atman in

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friends

i've ran across this several times on the internet never took much notice until i was sent this by a family member who knew my parents were at one time jw's.

somehow he thought this would interest me, it mostly got me to thinking about how many cults there are out there.. i would be interested in anything you here have to say..

Atman

I've ran across this several times on the Internet never took much notice until I was sent this by a family member who knew my parents were at one time JW's. Somehow he thought this would interest me, it mostly got me to thinking about how many cults there are out there.

I would be interested in anything you here have to say.

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Broken Heart...

by brotherdan in

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friends

some of you have read what i wrote on this thread: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/200211/1/never-wake-up.

here's the final email my wife just sent me 1 minute ago:.

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Atman

Sorry for your troubles broD, it's got to be a real heartache for you for sure. JW's are sure a *ucked up bunch with what they do to families. Stupid cult!

I wonder if it's been just as hard for you to keep up the pretence and the hope that somehow you'll get through to her? That can be a real drain on a relationship, your health and serenity. I hope you find the peace you deserve soon.

Just wanted to let you know there really is light at the end of the tunnel, even if it's a different light you'll adjust, you'll make the best of it I'm sure.

Peace, out.

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Never Wake Up

by brotherdan in

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friends

just got back from an awesome time in maui.

today we got a call from my fil.

my mil has been in utah for the last week or so and found out that her family past was full of "demon activity".

Atman

Everyone else can see them, Darth. Are they just showing up blank for you?

It does not show up, only the first post altho the main page under Active shows others have made comments, weirdness.

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The Issue is Not that God WANTS Us to Suffer...

by AGuest in

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dear ones.

rather, it is our adversary who says we will do anything... anything... to avoid it.

a-n-y-t-h-i-n-g. even curse god to his face.

Atman

Quote from Ram Das: I don't understand why everyone is so afraid of dying? Why are they so afraid of ceasing to exist for all eternity after their death? "I" didn't exist for millions of years before my birth, and it didn't bother me one bit!
I love that quote!

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There's something I don't quite get

by dgp in

let's say you're an active witness (well, you guys were, or are active witnesses) and you look around you.

practically every appliance, invention, whatever, most of the food, all the new discoveries, virtually everything was made by worldlies.

it's been that way for thousands of years.

Atman

They'll use all the social services and not even vote to make sure these services are intact.

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What makes a FACT factual? Does the Governing Body know?

by Terry in

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a tendency to drastically underestimate the frequency of coincidence is a prime characteristic of innumerates, who generally accord great significance to correspondences of all sorts while attributing too little significance to quite conclusive but less flashy statistical evidence.. john allen paulos, innumeracy: mathematical .

illiteracy and its consequences.

let's look at the possible options involved when a person wants to determine the facts about something.. 1.they can make a wild guess.

Atman

The fact is nobody really knows and more importantly who cares?

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Weird News: A Condom With 'Teeth' Is Launched In South Africa

by Scott77 in

to combat rape, a condom with 'teeth' is launched in south africa, a country with the highest rape rates in the world, according to human rights watch.

it is also believed that 16 percent of the population is living with hiv.

here is how it works.

Atman

Can you say:

Bite me!