Thanks for the clarification Gopher, my question was actually rhetorical. I just don't understand how ppl can change their beliefs on a whim just because the WT told them to. I guess when you're in it it's very subtle, but still strange to me. The other thing I have a problem with, is in the study article it says something like "Jesus was not giving us a mathematical formula for figuring this out" and the conductor made it a point to say that's because we're not supposed to be trying to figure it out. But then how do they explain 1914 or any other date they've come up with so far? Aren't they using mathematical formulas to try and figure this stuff out? And haven't they been doing this throughout their entire history???
Anyway, that's the end of my rant. The hypocrisy of it all just really is very frustrating to me.
Thanks to everyone for all of the welcomes and support.
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I am going to my first meeting at a Kingdom Hall today......
by imissmaine ini decided to take in my first meeting today in an effort to better understand my girlfriend's family.
to be honest, i am not looking forward to this at all.
i know most all the people i am going to meet are nice and mean well.
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I am going to my first meeting at a Kingdom Hall today......
by imissmaine ini decided to take in my first meeting today in an effort to better understand my girlfriend's family.
to be honest, i am not looking forward to this at all.
i know most all the people i am going to meet are nice and mean well.
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I actually didn't get much reation to my pants other than a few looks. Although we were outta there as soon as it was over! lol The "sister" behind me did tell me that my shirt was distracting her cause she liked the pattern, she must have been as bored as I was! LOL
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Sister getting baptized.....
by searchingforfriends inmy little sister just called to inform me the she has completed her baptism questions and is scheduled to get dunked in a few months.
there's not really anything i can do or say about it because she's a minor and in my oppinion not old enough to make any life long commitment.
anyone have a similar situation?
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Thanks for all of the comments, it helps to know I am not the only one dealing with this sort of thing.
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I am going to my first meeting at a Kingdom Hall today......
by imissmaine ini decided to take in my first meeting today in an effort to better understand my girlfriend's family.
to be honest, i am not looking forward to this at all.
i know most all the people i am going to meet are nice and mean well.
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I am IMM's girlfriend and I can assure you all that I won't be going back to dubland!!! I have been reading on this site for quite some time and have recently gotten up the nerve to start posting.
Just remember that I am as about as capable of having a long lasting and meaningful relationship as anyone else that posts on this site.
It was incredibly difficult to sit through the boasting session, and it will be my last. Still it will provide some good ammo when dealing with my parents. One thing I did get some pleasure from is that I wore PANTS!!!! hehe And what was up with the "new" information??? WTF?
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Sister getting baptized.....
by searchingforfriends inmy little sister just called to inform me the she has completed her baptism questions and is scheduled to get dunked in a few months.
there's not really anything i can do or say about it because she's a minor and in my oppinion not old enough to make any life long commitment.
anyone have a similar situation?
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I was raised a dub, but have been fading. She did ask me to go, and I told her I will. Even though I don't want this to happen, I feel like she is doing what she thinks is right and is very excited about it, I want to let her have her day and enjoy it even though it will be hard to watch. Thanks for the advice, I think planting little seeds over time and being there for her when she decides it is not the truth is the best way to go given the delicate nature of the situation. (I don't want my parents deciding that I am too much of a threat to her spirituality.)
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Sister getting baptized.....
by searchingforfriends inmy little sister just called to inform me the she has completed her baptism questions and is scheduled to get dunked in a few months.
there's not really anything i can do or say about it because she's a minor and in my oppinion not old enough to make any life long commitment.
anyone have a similar situation?
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Unfortunately I fear that part of her reason for this is seeking parental approval. She's not even a teen yet. She's still at that age where she will believe anything mom and dad tell her.
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I am going to my first meeting at a Kingdom Hall today......
by imissmaine ini decided to take in my first meeting today in an effort to better understand my girlfriend's family.
to be honest, i am not looking forward to this at all.
i know most all the people i am going to meet are nice and mean well.
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I am sure your GF didn't do it on purpose, she prolly just assumed that you knew.....
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I am going to my first meeting at a Kingdom Hall today......
by imissmaine ini decided to take in my first meeting today in an effort to better understand my girlfriend's family.
to be honest, i am not looking forward to this at all.
i know most all the people i am going to meet are nice and mean well.
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Have fun, I think you should make it more interesting by giggleing and rolling your eyes at all of the wonderful new information that you receive. Look forward to reading you comments later.
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Sister getting baptized.....
by searchingforfriends inmy little sister just called to inform me the she has completed her baptism questions and is scheduled to get dunked in a few months.
there's not really anything i can do or say about it because she's a minor and in my oppinion not old enough to make any life long commitment.
anyone have a similar situation?
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My little sister just called to inform me the she has completed her baptism questions and is scheduled to get dunked in a few months. There's not really anything I can do or say about it because she's a minor and in my oppinion not old enough to make any life long commitment. Anyone have a similar situation? How do you handle it? Did you attend?
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Your JW Relatives Have 2 Personalities - Cult & Authentic- See the Change
by flipper inin steve hassan's book, " combatting cult mind control" - one of the points that assisted me the most is understanding that all cult members have a " cult " personality which turns on when defending their faith, and they have an authentic, non - cult personality they were born with- the personality they had before being programmed by the jehovah's witnesses or any other " cult".
how is this dual cult/ authentic personality manifest ?
hassan mentions in his book that, " one moment the person is speaking cultic jargon with a hostile or elitist know-it-all attitude .
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As I was reading this it occured to me the they are encouraged to "strip off the old personality and put on the new one" I have heard that term so many times while a wittness. If you think about what that means, it entails so much more than dropping a few bad habits, it's completly replacing you're personality with the one the WTS thinks you should have.
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