1.I sacrificed family get-togethers at holiday times.
2.I sacrificed being there for my daughter at times when she needed me .
3.I sacrificed all my real friends for ones who turned out to be phony.
4.I nearly sacrificed my marriage of 30 years.
1) i sacrificed work offered to me so i could earn more money.
2) i sacrificed my job as a well payed dj.
3) i sacrificed weekend ly-ins to go out preaching.
1.I sacrificed family get-togethers at holiday times.
2.I sacrificed being there for my daughter at times when she needed me .
3.I sacrificed all my real friends for ones who turned out to be phony.
4.I nearly sacrificed my marriage of 30 years.
for me, it was the nfc championship game three years ago in order to attend the meeting, then, on top of that, the elders had *scheduled* a meeting for that day as well, to discuss the co visit.
then there was a "supplemental" elder's school held a few years back that took me away from the afc title game.
oh, i taped the stuff, but time-shift recording of sports just doesn't cut it.
Christmas,my kids' birthdays,my husband's companionship,and having true friends.
when you were associated in the congregation, were you treated in a way that made you feel like you were a 2nd class citizen?
how were you regarded?
were you the brunt of criticism or were you pretty much well-liked?
I was never treated the way Jesus said his true followers would treat people.I never witnessed any "agape" love,only cliques,backbiters and gossipers.It was nothing but a social gathering mainly for elders,ministerial servants and their wives.I found that the women were judged mainly on what their husband was in the congregation.(And mine was an unbeliever.)He tried to get me to see the light for years.Thank God my eyes were finally opened.
i just read diane wilson's book "awakening of a jehovahs witness" and it was a wonderful account of her experiences as a jw.
there are great references in here for their flip flops, their blood issue, the cult mentality (hassan) and how vulnerable certain "types" of people are to the mind manipulating ways of the witchtrowel!
does anybody have an email addy for diane by any chance?
I don't have an e-mail address,but I just wanted to say I finished her book yesterday(read it in 2 days).I couldn't put it down because I could relate to just about everything she experienced.This is recommended reading to anyone who hasn't yet done so.
one of the major reasons that a disfellowshipped or disassociated person has for coming back to "jehovah's organization" is that perhaps they will miss the "sweet fellowship".
after hearing comments regarding the km article on how to treat disfellowshipped ones, i must wonder why anyone of sound mind would think a disfellowshipped person would miss anything from the organization.
viewing persons as "dead" while out of the organization would not make one feel anxious to return to jehovah's loving arrangement through the organization.whoever coined the term about missing "the sweet fellowship" was pretty clever.
I don't miss a damn thing about it because I never had any friends there anyway.The kh was the coldest place I have ever been to in my life.My son and I were never invited to any of their social get-togethers,and when we would find out about it later,they would make no apology for leaving us out.Every year right before X-mas they would all get together and have a talent show.Nothing competitive,just different ones getting up and singing,telling jokes or whatever.Two of the elder's wives were in charge of invitations and it was supposed to be for the entire congregation but we never received one.I am not Df'd or Da'd,I just faded away because I got tired of all the cliqeishness.I just didn't see the christian love that jesus said would identify his followers.Sorry if I rambled,just saw an opportunity to vent.
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what are some words and phrases we no longer use (except when writing here) that we used to use as witnesses.. heres some,.
theocratic, other crowd, this system of things, new order
Making progress
Time sheets
Bad association
Armageddon
In the truth
Worldly person
one of the major reasons people get attracted to the jw's is because of their new found "hope".
if you are disillusioned or are no longer a jw , do you feel that you still have hope?
or are you unsure, now, about alot of things?
I figure,when the time comes,it will be between me and God.He is the reader of hearts,not time sheets.
a friend of mine said that jw's paid tithing.
i've never heard it mentioned on this board - is this true, and if so is there a set amount?
it's biblical so i would expect the jw to say something about it.
They do not tithe but every now and then there will be a study in the km about giving to the organization.They also put a reminder in the watchtower sometimes that you can put the society in your will and make them the beneficiary on your life insurance policies.This is something I never thought was right.
of all the jw's that are alive at the present.......the biggest percentage of those have been in the organisation 10 years or less.
most have no knowledge of the reason why others leave.
so......i was wondering......
I would suggest reading Diane Wilson's book.She really delved into the flip-flopping thing and found out a lot I didn't know about and I was a jw for over 30 years.The one thing that really got me though was the revision of the term "generation".Also,I wonder how they will explain it if 30 years from now there are still 8,000 memorial partakers.This number has not decreased since the mid-1980's.I often wonder if someone is juggling the books so they can use this to say why armageddon hasn't came yet.
being raised as a witness, i was taught to have nothing to do with worldly people.
as long as they were not dedicated, baptized worshippers of jehovah, they were considered as wicked ones that would soon be destroyed at armaggedon.
in school and later, at work, i tried to keep a safe distance from anyone not a witness.
Even though I rarely missed meetings and regularly went out in service,I was never invited to any of their social events.My son and I had no friends there.We did not see the love that Jesus said would identify his true disciples,only a bunch of gossiping,back-stabbing cliques.So I guess I was considered bad association by them but now I have real friends,not phony robot-like hypocrites.