Barb, I have this great photo of my parents with Bonnie and Bill swilling cocktails (circa 1960). If only I could find it. When I do, I'll post it to this thread.
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Rutherford Exposed: The Story of Berta and Bonnie
by Farkel init was made by a women who in later years wore crotchless panties and bras which had holes in the nipple areas.
he not only knew the woman in question (she's now deceased), he has met her numerous times.
up until recently this secret of her year's long sexual affair with rutherford was kept by the family.
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The Smoke and Mirrors of the Annual Meeting
by Billy the Ex-Bethelite inthe annual meeting seems to boil down to an opening talk about an "exciting new" bible museum and a closing talk about an "exciting new" new world translation.
sandwiched in between were the wt summary, a talk about indoctrinating the children fast/furious, and some "trip down memory lane.".
why would this "spiritual feast" seem to be anticlimactic?
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I believe the stage is being set for doctrinal and/or organizational "refinements" along the lines of those that were made following the completion of the NWT. The elder arrangement, the "superior authorities" and other changes were introduced either after the completion or after revisions of the NWT. Drastic changes are more palatable if they come about as the result of the more intense examination of the bible involved in translating it. As far as what those changes might be, my guess is that JWN has probably made more intelligent speculation than what "God's spirit-directed organization" will actually come up with. Stay tuned.
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Jehovah's Witness boy fights court for right to die
by jwfacts inhttp://www.smh.com.au/nsw/religious-boy-fights-court-for-right-to-die-20130917-2tx5u.html.
this is tragic.
the boy is 17, and earlier this year the courts ruled that he was to be forced a transfusion.
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I would be dead today if my wallet wasn't knocked far from my body when I was hit by a car. My blood card was the first thing you would see when you opened my wallet. Because had no ID on my person, I was admitted to the Emergency Room and later, surgery, as a John Doe. By the time my wife, who had the advance medical directive from me to refuse blood, found me, blood had already been transfused due to huge blood loss. This was all 4 years before we left the religion. This was one of a few life experiences that contributed to our seeing the light.
I hope this young man has a favorable outcome and, as I did, learn something from the experience. If such is the case, then likely, his parents will be in a better position to clearly reflect on the position they took. If it goes the other way, the misdirected support they get from the congregation will only reinforce the error of their actions.
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Japan
by DNCall inwho knows and i are going to tokyo, kyoto, kobe and hakone at the end of next week.
last march was our 40th wedding anniversary and our gift to each other is this trip.. does anyone have any recommendations re restaurants, attractions, etc.?.
thanks in advance.. f..
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Who Knows and I are going to Tokyo, Kyoto, Kobe and Hakone at the end of next week. Last March was our 40th wedding anniversary and our gift to each other is this trip.
Does anyone have any recommendations re restaurants, attractions, etc.?
Thanks in advance.
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Rutherford banned singing at the meetings in 1938 - Knorr reintroduced it in 1944
by slimboyfat in...which is just one of the interesting facts discussed in this essay on the history of singing in the jw religion.
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http://www.cesnur.org/2013/swe-chryssides.pdf.
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Blondie: I think it was more of Rutherford's secularization of the religion. If religion is a snare and a racket, Rutherford's group had to look and be perceived less as a religion and more as an organization. Hence, Kingdom Hall instead of church, company instead of congregation, use of the term "publisher," etc. Singing was too religious for JFR.
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Rutherford banned singing at the meetings in 1938 - Knorr reintroduced it in 1944
by slimboyfat in...which is just one of the interesting facts discussed in this essay on the history of singing in the jw religion.
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http://www.cesnur.org/2013/swe-chryssides.pdf.
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Franz was the influence behind Knorr reinstating singing. After all, Freddy was a singer (played a little harmonica too).
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Candace Conti v Watchtower Society | September 2013 | Watchtower's Reply Brief | A136641
by jwleaks injw leaks has published the appellant's reply briefs in the case: "candace conti v. watchtower bible and tract society of new york & north fremont congregation of jehovah's witnesses".. 67 pages (wtbtsny) and 58 pages (nfcjw) including documents of service.. .
www.jwleaks.org.
jw leaks.
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Although the misfeasance argument raised in Rick Simon's Respondent's Brief was very strong in my opinion, I did wonder why he was raising it (for the first time as far as I can see) on appeal. I had read the trial transcripts and could only detect indirect testimony that would support misfeasance (i.e., elders assigning Candace to work with Kendrick in FS).
It is possible that no elder ever assigned the two to work together. So often the person conducting field service meetings (elder or not) will ask if the publishers have made arrangements to work with other publishers. It was always my experience that chldren were not assigned partners, but it was left up to the adult publishers to determine which pairing of adults the children would work with. Most of the assigning that was done by the conductor involved those who didn't have pre-arrangements.
On the other hand, perhaps one of the elders other than the three that testified at trial had assigned Candace to work with Kendrick. We don't know because it was not brought up at trial.
Little wonder then, that Watchtower attacks the misfeasance argument in its Reply Brief.
The larger issue, in my opinion, is that Watchtower's insistence that the responsibility of care rests primarily with the parents actually works against them. Such a position makes it all the more necessary for the parents to know about any child molester (convicted or not, repentant or not, one time or not) in their midst. Otherwise parents' care of their children is dangerously limited. A policy that withholds this vital information from them is willful and malicious. To say that this policy is scripturally-based is to grossly misrepresent Scripture.
Here's hoping the appellate panel will discern what this case is really about (as the jury did) and, even without considering misfeasance, rule in Candace's favor.
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Candace Conti case updated
by gingerbread ini just received an email notification from the california appellate court hearing the wt appeal of the conti case:.
the case has been fully briefed.. the case is on the conference list.. the oral argument waiver notice has been sent.. .
i'm not well versed in the process or these terms.
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Vidiot: The motivation of the WTS to be heard by the Supreme Court is not a factor in its being granted a hearing. The US Supreme Court would have to find that Watchtower's case is worthy of their time. Likewise, with the California State Supreme Court. Unlike the appellate courts, the Watchtower can't simply file an appeal and be heard in the higher courts.
With Rick Simons requesting oral argument it's highly unlikely Watchtower would waive being heard.
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Oral argument has not taken place yet. The court will set a date for oral argument now that the briefing has been completed.
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Candace Conti: Jehovah's Organization filed its Reply Brief
by DNCall inok jw leaks, do your thing..
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The judges don't deliberate until after oral argument. The court should be setting an oral argument date shortly. It's usually somewhere between 30 to 90 days from now.