Posts by DNCall

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Jehovah's Witnesses and Race/Culture

by kneehighmiah in

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i have also attended spanish congregations.

this has helped me to understand and respect totally different perspectives and narratives on race.

please be respectful during this discussion.

DNCall

Minimus: They even demonize the word "normal."

Kneehigh: As you indicate, the diversity of personal experience certainly enables a broader view of everything, including race. GB 2.0 is more diverse background-wise than any previous version. I believe this can be seen in its allowance of the entertainment presented to the international delegates to the RCs this summer. Several videos have been posted here and elsewhere demonstrating this.

Your mention of "non vulgar black slang" reminds me of an incident I witnessed while I was at Patterson conducting the singers on the CD that was leaked (you know, the one the organization didn't sponsor). We were trying to get the vocalists to loosen up a little bit in their phrasing. One of the professionals there, who was well versed in said slang, let fly, "put some stank on it!" What I still laugh about to this day is how the white female Bethelite singers picked up on this expression and repeated it throughout the day. Diversity of experience is so key to this issue.

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Changes to Watchtower publication pictures

by rory-ks in

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are there any more examples like this?

pictures changed because a person was disfellowshipped?.

DNCall

whathehadas: I was in the audience that day. Remember his intro.? "Shhhhh . . . be very quiet . . . do you hear that sound . . . it's the sound of your heart beating . . . (referring the excitement of being baptized). I guess the excitement wore off for you . . .

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Changes to Watchtower publication pictures

by rory-ks in

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are there any more examples like this?

pictures changed because a person was disfellowshipped?.

DNCall

I can vouch for the information in the video imbedded in A.proclaimer's post.

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KIngdom Melodies 7 & 8

by SuperBoy in

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would love to know why they aren't on the jw.org.. any ideas?.

it's a bit sad but i still listening to them.

i feel quite industrious when they are on so get the housework done..

DNCall

If memory serves, once #9 was completed we went back and revised 1 through 6. By the time that was accomplished, the new songbook was being compiled and many of the songs that were originally on 7 and 8 had been discarded.

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Resurrection talk at convention

by innerpeace in

i didn't go to the convention but have family who did, all are going on about the resurrection talk, how there wasn't a dry eye in the arena.

and apparently a video was shown too on it.

we lost a family member some years back and they are on fb talking about the resurrection and new world coming soon.

DNCall

The intellectual content of bygone days included discussions of the Biblical sytem of unfolding and progressive covenants, Jewish festivals and their fulfillment in the Christian era, the chronology, the eschatology in detail, etc. Since most of this was time-sensitive and when time ran out (around 1995), the intellectual content was no longer valid. I should probably clarify that "intellectual content" doesn't have to be true. As it turns out most of it was pseudo-intellectual, but at least it wasn't the vapid fare that's served up today. Today's fare requires turning up the violins.

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Resurrection talk at convention

by innerpeace in

i didn't go to the convention but have family who did, all are going on about the resurrection talk, how there wasn't a dry eye in the arena.

and apparently a video was shown too on it.

we lost a family member some years back and they are on fb talking about the resurrection and new world coming soon.

DNCall

I find this so interesting since I witnessed the creation of audio/video services at headquarters. I was involved in composing music but was often given a voice in concept and production meetings. I can recall fighting for emotional content in the videos especially since my job was to enhance whatever emotional values the videos contained. The problem was that there was very little emotional content and hence a much more difficult job to provide suitable music. The whole process was counter-intuitive. My fellow composers and I would lobby sympathetic GB members like Jack Barr and highly respected overseers like Ulysses Glass to at least address the need for some emotion. For the most part the videos were dry and self-defeating.

This was back when "emotion was a tool of Christendom." The reasoning was that since Christendom didn't have "The Truth," it had to rely on emotion to retain its adherents. The organization prided itself on the intellectual content of its products.

The cloying video described in this thread is clearly the effect the absence of anything valid intellectually. The passage of time has rendered the intellectual content of bygone days, useless.

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Trolleys everywhere in my neck of the woods

by KateWild in

i went to an appointment today and what do you know a trolley.. i couldn't stop and chat, but i have another appoinment thursday, i will go early and have a chat.

i love this it's great fun chatting to jws whilst being df'd.. any ideas for my presentation?.

do you think i am harming myself?.

DNCall

The question I love is: From where did the many thousands of known animal species come? Far fewer species were preserved in the ark. We know God didn't create additional species because the flood occured during his day of rest. Even according to the the theory of evolution, additional species couldn't possibly have evolved during the four thousand years or so since the flood.

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New "theocratic history" book for witnesses?

by stuckinarut2 in

so i have heard a few of us talking about a newly released book to replace or add to the proclaimers book?.

is that correct?.

if so, i wonder how much they have re-written history to cover the real truths?.

DNCall

If I remember correctly, the public talk given by Nathan Knorr at the 1958 International Convention in New York was entitled "God's Kingdom Rules - Is The World's End Near?" Probably a good idea that with this new release, the "Is The World's End Near?" part was dropped. Even though I was 7 years old, I can remember leaving invitations to this lecture in office buildings in Manhattan. I remember the feeling of urgency in getting as many of the invitations distributed as we could.

I find it interesting, to say the least, that 56 years later, the new release is retrospective in nature, as is the "100 Years of Christ's Rule" diversion. Funny how so long ago we were forward-looking. Today, it's all about distraction from the failed expectations.

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What happens after you get the registered letter?

by paul from cleveland in

my friend's daughter, who was baptized at 14, has decided to leave the witnesses.

she's in her early 20's.

she's stopped going to meeting a while ago and moved in with her father who is disfellowshipped.

DNCall

It's always a good idea to respond with the request that her legal counsel be present at the meeting. This will trigger a call from the elders to the legal department and often the elders are advised not to pursue the matter.

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That does it ! I'm leaving ! ! !

by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in

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leaving the university with my degree!.

exams are finished and it's just a matter of days before i walk.. i was certainly stressed about doing this.

i'm older than my classmates and armageddon was sooooo close!

DNCall

Congrats and best of success!