TooBad TooSad, Thanks for pointing this out the way you did. We all have heard the "soon" word but when put in the contex you just used, one can see how rediciulous they are.
I guess this could be another "loaded word".
the use of the word "soon" at the kh is used so much by jw's.
that it has almost turned into a "soon" doctrine.. i counted the word soon 15 times at the meeting yesterday during the.
public talk and wt.
TooBad TooSad, Thanks for pointing this out the way you did. We all have heard the "soon" word but when put in the contex you just used, one can see how rediciulous they are.
I guess this could be another "loaded word".
i had a frank discussion with my parents yesterday that ended up in the cul-de-sac of "how did the organisation start?
" i told them that all they need to know about the origins of the org are in the proclaimers book, of how chuck started his own religion, or how he got his ideas from the adventists and a lovely fellow called barbour and how chuck preached that christ had returned in 1874 and that the last days had started in 1799.. my parents were unwilling to accept this, so i said, "read your proclaimers book!
y'know what my mum's answer to that was?.
Gordy, thanks for the link, a great help in understanding the Proclaimers book, bookmarked.
i had a frank discussion with my parents yesterday that ended up in the cul-de-sac of "how did the organisation start?
" i told them that all they need to know about the origins of the org are in the proclaimers book, of how chuck started his own religion, or how he got his ideas from the adventists and a lovely fellow called barbour and how chuck preached that christ had returned in 1874 and that the last days had started in 1799.. my parents were unwilling to accept this, so i said, "read your proclaimers book!
y'know what my mum's answer to that was?.
Thanks, so when your speaking of the watchtower book, your talking about a book put together using all the watchtowers from a certain year? I know the watchtower magazines don't have that many pages.
i had a frank discussion with my parents yesterday that ended up in the cul-de-sac of "how did the organisation start?
" i told them that all they need to know about the origins of the org are in the proclaimers book, of how chuck started his own religion, or how he got his ideas from the adventists and a lovely fellow called barbour and how chuck preached that christ had returned in 1874 and that the last days had started in 1799.. my parents were unwilling to accept this, so i said, "read your proclaimers book!
y'know what my mum's answer to that was?.
Blondi or anyone, when you quote like you did in this post, W.74 8/15 p. 507 , what exactly does the W stand for, how can I find this. I'm not a jw so I'm not sure what your source is.
cawshun
hey people, this is working for me!
yesterday, when we were eating in pollo loco after field service, two cars, 7 people.
(i know, i know, why am i going in service?).
Love it Bonafide, cleaver!
happy mother's day to all the lovely mummy's.. i hope you all get spoiled rotten.. .
Thank's! Doesn't really matter which day it is, mother's day should be everyday!! We earned it.
here's a hypothetical question that worth some thought and contemplation.. if a small group of men or maybe even one man were to start the wts just the way russell did some 100 years ago.
would it grow and flourish just like the real one has done ?.
if the wts were to use all of their doctrines that they have acquired or established such as.
Well, they would not buy into the old doctrines, that is the reason the WT is making changes to their doctrines. The way they know how to twist scriptures to make them fit whatever it is they are saying at the time. Just find the right carrot to lure them in and Paradise Earth, is a good one. No sadness, no sickness, never a tear fall from your eye. People are longing for peace, a perfect government, happiness. If the WT can twist the scriptures to show people this is God's plan, I think people will still buy it.
...crisis of conscience and combatting cult mind control in my possession!!
bought them today!!.
i can't say enough how much this site has helped me thus far!
I really thought the book "Captives of a Concept" made it very clear and easy to read, how the WT is NOT the true religion. I also read COC and Steve Hassan's book on mind control. All 3 books are excellent reads for a jw.
If I had to do it again, I would read all 3 books in this order, 1st, Captive's of a Concept, 2nd, CoC, 3rd, Stever Hassans book Combatting Cult Mind Control.
as i stated in my first post, i had reached a crossroads.. i was never going back to the kingdom hall, ever.. my struggle was i knew i had to tell my wife.
she is my best friend and soulmate.
i am indeed a lucky man to have found her.
How fortunate for you that you and your wife were on the same page. Congratulations!
Everytime I hear a story like this, it gives me hope for my daughter and her family.
thanks for sharing!
here's a hypothetical question that worth some thought and contemplation.. if a small group of men or maybe even one man were to start the wts just the way russell did some 100 years ago.
would it grow and flourish just like the real one has done ?.
if the wts were to use all of their doctrines that they have acquired or established such as.
I think it might. I look at Obama, he has chrisma, crowds love and followed him, even referred to as the messiah, what is his carrot to lure the great crowds in... "Change".
People are so hungry for change, they will buy it from a chrismatic leader. To me, Obama is just another politician, no different.