Posts by cawshun

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Is there proof somewhere that when a KH is sold...,

by cawshun in

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is there some place to prove that when a congregation donates time, work, materials, ect... to build a kh, that when it get's sold the money goes to the wts corporation and not back to the congregation that built it through donations?.

cawshun

Is there some place to prove that when a congregation donates time, work, materials, ect... to build a KH, that when it get's sold the money goes to the WTS corporation and not back to the congregation that built it through donations?

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I have a question, do the JW' still believe that....,

by cawshun in

do the jw's still believe that they were chosen by jesus as god's one true religion, by what charles russel taught?

do they stand on that or do they feel they were chosen later under rutherford?

if they accept that russel was chosen and rutherford changed things up, wouldn't rutherford be an apostate?.

cawshun

Again everyone, thank you for taking time to respond to my post.

My sil was raised a jw, he broke away in his teen years, got reinstated, married my daughter, she got baptized 6yrs. ago. I have a great relationship with both of them. I don't want to jepordize this. I am here for my grand-kids age 8 and 5. I hate to see them at this young age falling under the WTS mind control.

I do try to say things to get them to think, but not to often. I'm afraid if I brought things up all the time they would figure out that I'm plotting against them.

I told my daughter that I would not interfere with her children and how she is raising them. Instead I will try to work on the parents, without their knowledge.

I'm always afraid I will say something that will get them angry with me. Just trying to play it cool and get myself educated here.

Thanks again,

cawshun

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I have a question, do the JW' still believe that....,

by cawshun in

do the jw's still believe that they were chosen by jesus as god's one true religion, by what charles russel taught?

do they stand on that or do they feel they were chosen later under rutherford?

if they accept that russel was chosen and rutherford changed things up, wouldn't rutherford be an apostate?.

cawshun

Thank you for all helpful information.

Possible-san, thanks for the links, I will look them over and bookmark. I have the book "Captives of a Concept" I think its an excellent book, I was thinking on taking advice from Don Cammeron and see if I could get my son in law to study with me, but ask him to study the history with me first so I can know why it is they believe they are the one true religion. I really have to do my homework.

I have a lot to learn, so I won't be doing this any time soon.

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The importance of Rutherford...

by drew sagan in

i was doing some thinking about watchtower eschatology and something interesting popped into my head.

throughout the watchtowers revelation book we read of elaborate stories and interpreatations all putting the watchtowers history into the pages of the bible.

some of these include:.

cawshun

This is a very good post. The way you analize it Drew and Farkel, it's hard to believe the WTS can continue much longer. Maybe I'm just doing some wishful thinking.

I learn so much from all the brilliant minds here!

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I have a question, do the JW' still believe that....,

by cawshun in

do the jw's still believe that they were chosen by jesus as god's one true religion, by what charles russel taught?

do they stand on that or do they feel they were chosen later under rutherford?

if they accept that russel was chosen and rutherford changed things up, wouldn't rutherford be an apostate?.

cawshun

Thanks Blondie, I appreciate it, I better get the Proclaimers book. Although, being that they saw the light getting brighter on this subject, it doesn't matter.

I thought maybe I could show my son in law that since they celebrated Christmas when they had Jesus approval for teaching the proper food at the proper time, that maybe they would see that it is ok. Boy, the WT has all their bases covered! UGH!

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I have a question, do the JW' still believe that....,

by cawshun in

do the jw's still believe that they were chosen by jesus as god's one true religion, by what charles russel taught?

do they stand on that or do they feel they were chosen later under rutherford?

if they accept that russel was chosen and rutherford changed things up, wouldn't rutherford be an apostate?.

cawshun

On the Way Out, I see I lost that argument. Unbelievable, they have an answer for everything.

Thank you for setting the stage for me.

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I have a question, do the JW' still believe that....,

by cawshun in

do the jw's still believe that they were chosen by jesus as god's one true religion, by what charles russel taught?

do they stand on that or do they feel they were chosen later under rutherford?

if they accept that russel was chosen and rutherford changed things up, wouldn't rutherford be an apostate?.

cawshun

Sir82,

So based on those 4 things only, they had Jesus approval, no matter what else they were teaching at that time? So the proper food at the propper time was based only on these 4 things, no dates? Nothing on the doctrines they were preaching?

I have seen one picture of a Christmas dinner at Bethel, is there other proof that they celebrated Christmas?

I believe I read, maybe on this forum, that Rutherford was the one to stop the celebrating of Christmas. Is there some place to find this, what publication that show's it was celebrated till Rutherford stopped it?

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Newbie waves

by Phee in

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hiya.... .

i've been lurking here for over a year...(on the old forum and then this one)...i also post on several other forums.... got a long story, but i won't go into that right now.. some of you know me from the other sites, just figured this was a natural progression into apostahood to register here.

see ya'll 'round!.

cawshun

Welcome, you give me hope!

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I have a question, do the JW' still believe that....,

by cawshun in

do the jw's still believe that they were chosen by jesus as god's one true religion, by what charles russel taught?

do they stand on that or do they feel they were chosen later under rutherford?

if they accept that russel was chosen and rutherford changed things up, wouldn't rutherford be an apostate?.

cawshun

Thanks Wobble, I would like to ask this question to my son in law, I don't want him to give me some answer or point me to some scripture that I am unaware of, I wan't to be able to prove him wrong. I don't want to be caught off guard. I'm not planning on doing this anytime soon, just trying to prepare for that day.

Thanks

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I have a question, do the JW' still believe that....,

by cawshun in

do the jw's still believe that they were chosen by jesus as god's one true religion, by what charles russel taught?

do they stand on that or do they feel they were chosen later under rutherford?

if they accept that russel was chosen and rutherford changed things up, wouldn't rutherford be an apostate?.

cawshun

Do the JW's still believe that they were chosen by Jesus as God's one true religion, by what Charles Russel taught? Do they stand on that or do they feel they were chosen later under Rutherford?

If they accept that Russel was chosen and Rutherford changed things up, wouldn't Rutherford be an apostate?

I have read so many confusing teachings by the WT, I don't know what to think. What is their true belief of how they were chosen to be God's channel on earth, until we know when, how and why they were chosen, nothing is to be trusted. I am not sure what it is they are teaching about this today.

If I were studying with a JW and I asked them to prove to me why they think they are Gods channel and that they have the truth over all religions, what would I be told?