Posts by Finkelstein

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1919 and Jesus' selection of the Watchtower corporation

by biometrics in

does anyone know any other reason(s) jesus might not have selected the watchtower corporation in 1919?.

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Finkelstein

Under close scrutiny of the history of the WTS. and todays JWS, that this religion was created and developed under false doctrines and false bible

teachings similar to other religions that got started. It has to be honestly realized that these doctrines no matter how false or fictitious they were and still

are, helped into creating its following adherents.

And since the WTS's doctrines were put into print and distributed publicly, one can see how the organization slowly but surely grew over time.

Most religions self proclaim themselves being solely guided by god and others not, this is an inner mechanism or endeavor toward their own self

empowerment . Organized religion is about power and money and thats why men are typically lured toward it.

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Those Canadians love their porn. They even put it on their money

by wha happened? in

http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/the-exchange/canadian-20-banknote-too-provocative-192650516.html.

Finkelstein

Wont this increase the value of the Canadian currency ?

I'm all for putting boobs on are money if it makes are money that more desirable.

How about putting Pamala Anderson on some of are bills .

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MORE HARM than GOOD

by Terry in

why does religion often do more harm than good?.

if we love our neighbor as ourself---we must first love ourselves.. if we do to others what we would want done to us---our sense of self welfare, once again, is the criterion.. the wicked man knows how to give his own son good gifts, we are told, and god is our parent eager to do the same.. yet, religious institutions (representing god) are weighed down with judgemental practices, intrusive meddling, preoccupation with superficiality and lip service to the "greater good".. human repair is not the objective so much as human control.. .

this raises what i regard as a very important question: shouldn't the one who is weak, frail, mortal and vulnerable be the object of improvement by the living god?.

Finkelstein

Examples? Slavery - not condemned by the bible. Gay lifestyle - somewhat demonized by the bible.

There's definitely some movement toward acceptance of secular social standards but what is it that is impeding social acceptance

and understanding today ? In the Islamic world homosexuality is still deemed a crime of which in some countries like Iran carries the death penalty.

There were unquestionably some good social standards established in those ancient civilizations to be realized but there were also some bad ones as well.

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MORE HARM than GOOD

by Terry in

why does religion often do more harm than good?.

if we love our neighbor as ourself---we must first love ourselves.. if we do to others what we would want done to us---our sense of self welfare, once again, is the criterion.. the wicked man knows how to give his own son good gifts, we are told, and god is our parent eager to do the same.. yet, religious institutions (representing god) are weighed down with judgemental practices, intrusive meddling, preoccupation with superficiality and lip service to the "greater good".. human repair is not the objective so much as human control.. .

this raises what i regard as a very important question: shouldn't the one who is weak, frail, mortal and vulnerable be the object of improvement by the living god?.

Finkelstein

The main problem with religion is its pertaining power and control that is formulated into its very structure.

An availability of power offered mainly toward men and mostly out for the benefit of men.

The other elements of harm come into effect when its realized that most of the great religions that exist

today were constructed by ancient primitive people/civilizations a very long time ago.

Humanity has learned much about himself and the world we live in since ancient times or when those religions were

firstly created. Since the leaders of religions like the JWS take the assuming position of divine power from god

they are held down by the said holy texts, which are supposedly expressions of that divine power and wisdom, but in reality

were social moral standards created by ignorant and primitive societies.

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Latest WTBTS UK financial figures 2010 / 2011

by dozy in

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friends

the structure of the wtbts in the uk is that they have split the asset & trading divisions ( presumably to ringfence a catastophic legal claim , such as a paedophilia class action.

) in fairness to the society , this is a model that many companies follow , and it also makes it easier for the property arm to sale & leaseback its assets.. ibsa ( primarily the asset holding division ).

http://www.charity-commission.gov.uk/showcharity/registerofcharities/documentlist.aspx?registeredcharitynumber=216647&subsidiarynumber=0&doctype=accountlist.

Finkelstein

At that, 71 million pounds in total Net funds is not a bad figure.

I wonder if the British branch will release that figure to the JWS in England ?

Thats 113 million in US dollars.

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Failed Doomsday and Apocalyptic Predictions

by leavingwt in

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friends

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you might enjoy the graphic presented at the link below, highlighting the many failures of doomsday prophets.

http://www.relativelyinteresting.com/failed-doomsday-and-apocalyptic-predictions/.

Finkelstein

Since the WTS is so full of BS its no wonder they instituted such an element of fear complacent upon their followers.

FEAR has many facets in the JW organization, its actual used to attract attention to the organization in the first place.

How many times have you seen a picture of catastrophic destruction on the front cover of an Awake magazine ?

Then these turds exploit people fears and insecurities to use them to circulate the WTS's literature further.

The other side of this manipulation comes in with well if they do as the WTS. tells them, this will appease god validating themselves

to enter into a safe and peaceful paradise, after Armageddon. What a scam and a fraud of religious proportions.

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Jehovah's Witnesses - Faith In Action Part 2 - thoughts?

by Captain Obvious in

most of us remember the thread last month about the video that was supposed to be watched in prep for discussion at the meeting.

well at the end of this month, there is a discussion on part 2. .

part 1 had at least that one big glaring lie, about what the bible students were expecting in 1914. it then went on in the usual fashion, blaming the students themselves for having made up their own expectations.... .

Finkelstein

One other thing these guys don't talk about for obvious reasons is the subject of Pyramidology.

They say that the public was thirsting for the truth and Russell gave it to them when the exact opposite actually happened.

So now its a case of creating lies to cover previous lies, to make the appearance of the truth, hows that for corruption.

As I pointed out recently the commentators continually say the organization was preaching the truth, when the exact opposite

is the real truth. What does one expect from the top executives leaders of the WTS. to say ?

The WTS. had produced probably the biggest formulated lie from a religious organization popularized by printed publications to cultivate

attention to its literature and that was the return of Christ and the impending doom of Armageddon upon mankind and still attracts attention and holds

people mentally enslaved to this suggestion for over a century after the original proclamation.

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Funniest vid Exposing WTS so far...:D

by mind blown in

between being funny, sound effects, editing and info., my fave thus far.

i just wish they would have included the miricle wheat and dummy money laundering wts companies that were also exposed.... still pretty neat... .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dnpocd529g.

Finkelstein

This video shows how much a bullshitter Russell was, when he goes on to describe how the measurement of the great Pyramid

can show the distance to the sun, the weight of the earth ... ie. ie.

Always the consummate salesman.

This video does show how the commercial aspirations of this one guy created the foundation of the WTS. to what exists today.

Bullshitting religious charlatanism in free America.

The WTS. had alway one important hook to catch people and exploit them and that was the imminent Armageddon that was always soon to come.

This kept people's attention alert and mentally instigated people to be subservient working slaves to the WTS. publishing house.

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Jehovah's Witnesses - Faith In Action Part 2 - thoughts?

by Captain Obvious in

most of us remember the thread last month about the video that was supposed to be watched in prep for discussion at the meeting.

well at the end of this month, there is a discussion on part 2. .

part 1 had at least that one big glaring lie, about what the bible students were expecting in 1914. it then went on in the usual fashion, blaming the students themselves for having made up their own expectations.... .

Finkelstein

It has to be tough for an Org. With such a spotted history to make a book or video about their own history without lying, or looking like the fools they are.

But they did and they selectively present information that only represents the WTS. in good truthful light.

Similar to how the WTS. only selectively picks information that would or could support their own doctrines.

One thing that that should be noticed in this video is the commentators repeatedly say the organization from Russell's time has

always been preaching the truth. The fact is the the people who were running the WTS. right back from Russell's handling

were nothing but religious charlatans who doctrines were constructed to attract attention from the public and their published works.

There was NEVER any viability to the WTS. expressed doctrines, this video was created most likely to contravene all the badly exposing

facts surrounding this religious organization, most notably being spread on the inter-net.

I guess they felt they had to do something to maintain the support, even to the necessity of presenting false information

of self supporting propaganda.

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1919 and Jesus' selection of the Watchtower corporation

by biometrics in

does anyone know any other reason(s) jesus might not have selected the watchtower corporation in 1919?.

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Finkelstein

The point of this thread topic is to show by itemization a list why would Jesus choose the IBSA and the teachings of C Russell over any other

Christian based faiths !

The Cross is known as a image of idolatry, the Knights Templar symbol is a symbol of militant violence.

Thats why they were pointed out.

Irregardless what other religious organization associated or used these symbols, that is what biometric was trying to point out.

The fact is that Rutherford aggressively sought out the power and control of the WTS publishing corporation, his postulation

that the WTS. was god's earthly organization chosen by god, was his means to substantiate that said power, plain and simple.

It has to be realized that doing this helped in the coercive luring of people to be subjective followers of the WTS. and still does to this day.