Posts by happytobefree

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Conversation with my Elder Father

by happytobefree in

this conversation was so absurd...that i actually chuckled under my breath.. ..the shooting in conneticut really hit me hard...so i decided to call my parents, kids and siblings just to say hello and i loved them.. well my dad was happy to hear from me and said he loved me as well.

he said, i know you don't want to hear this...but because we are in the last days things like this is going to happen and even get worse.

well i had to bite my tongue...because i really just want to show my parents i love them and spend time with them...so i choose not to dispute his statement.

happytobefree

Are you sure about that, I know mine will ?

..My father is an elder and PO. I have faded...he came to stay with me this summer for 1 week ( I live in TX...he live in OH). I had already found the local KH. I told him I had some brothers #'s Not once did he ask about going to the KH or field service. I'm 44 years old and my parents became JW when I was 2. In all of those years, I cannot think of one time where my dad did not try to meet the local brothers.

...also why he was here...(remember I'm a baptized witness). I failed to get all of my crosses of my walls and he and my mother used my bedroom. In my bathroom I have all kind of Christian reading material. He did not say not one thing about this....and did not ask to stay in a hotel ( he has the means).

...so I really think it a great possibility...and I'm staying hopeful

Your dad really loves you, and you him. You are blessed, wish he could see his way out of the cult so you could be closer.

...Yes I'm really blessed.. And you just do not know how much I want him out of the cult...if he can love me as he shows in the cult...just imagine how wonderful it would be if he was out..

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Conversation with my Elder Father

by happytobefree in

this conversation was so absurd...that i actually chuckled under my breath.. ..the shooting in conneticut really hit me hard...so i decided to call my parents, kids and siblings just to say hello and i loved them.. well my dad was happy to hear from me and said he loved me as well.

he said, i know you don't want to hear this...but because we are in the last days things like this is going to happen and even get worse.

well i had to bite my tongue...because i really just want to show my parents i love them and spend time with them...so i choose not to dispute his statement.

happytobefree

tiki... it is a horrible tragedy...........spin it to use it to the advantage of the message? pretty insensitive to the parents of those poor little kindergartners whose live have been cut short...........bad things happen and the kid that did it obviously had unresolved problems.....leave it be....let the responsible parties do what they have to do, and be supportive of those in grief........but please.....leave off with using a very sad situation to your personal or organizational "advantage"..

...so true...he said he was going to use the approach of a righteous God would not take innocent kids to heaven. So I said, Dad I think it's best to just tell peole to enjoy and love their family...because we never know when something tragic can happen. And I told him, I love him and would talk with him later.

...sigh...it's a damn same..REALLY!!!! This world really need more LOVE PERIOD!!! and less religions!!!

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Conversation with my Elder Father

by happytobefree in

this conversation was so absurd...that i actually chuckled under my breath.. ..the shooting in conneticut really hit me hard...so i decided to call my parents, kids and siblings just to say hello and i loved them.. well my dad was happy to hear from me and said he loved me as well.

he said, i know you don't want to hear this...but because we are in the last days things like this is going to happen and even get worse.

well i had to bite my tongue...because i really just want to show my parents i love them and spend time with them...so i choose not to dispute his statement.

happytobefree

Finkelstein... You should have said " Hey dad, you think this is bad you should be thankful we're not living in biblical times when entire civilizations

were slaughtered including children and young woman were brought back to pleasure the conquerers a nd at times even YHWH

approved of his chosen people to carry this out " We should be so fortunate to be living now instead of then.

...I so wanted to say this...but I already know what the outcome of the conversation would have been. I have been out of the JWorg for 12 years...and we have had many many discussions...and it always end up in the circular argument with threatening to turn me in to the Brothers and cutting off association with me..

...I find the best way is to not hide or apologize for my beliefs...this is the best way to conquer this. And deep down inside he is very proud of my stand. He always say...he's proud of my and my disfellowshipped sisters (not are religious views....we have not chosen drugs, illicit living etc. and we have raised him some great grandchildresn...he LOVE HIS GRANDCHILDREN)...also he states this alot... he know how we feel and we are at least respectful to him.

...so as I said earlier I choose my battles....My parents are getting up in age...And deep in my soul I know they will not die Jehovah Witnesses.

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Conversation with my Elder Father

by happytobefree in

this conversation was so absurd...that i actually chuckled under my breath.. ..the shooting in conneticut really hit me hard...so i decided to call my parents, kids and siblings just to say hello and i loved them.. well my dad was happy to hear from me and said he loved me as well.

he said, i know you don't want to hear this...but because we are in the last days things like this is going to happen and even get worse.

well i had to bite my tongue...because i really just want to show my parents i love them and spend time with them...so i choose not to dispute his statement.

happytobefree

This conversation was so absurd...that I actually chuckled under my breath.

..The shooting in Conneticut really hit me hard...so I decided to call my parents, kids and siblings just to say hello and I loved them.

Well my dad was happy to hear from me and said he loved me as well. He said, I know you don't want to hear this...but because we are in the last days things like this is going to happen and even get worse. Well I had to bite my tongue...because I really just want to show my parents I love them and spend time with them...so I choose not to dispute his statement. I just said dad no matter the reason it's horrible and I'm praying for understanding for the parents, children etc. involved.

...well we had other pleasantries...even discuss gun control...yes if my father voted...he would vote democrat...I even joke with him about this. I was surprised...be he said he would.

But this is the statement that he made that my stomach hurt...so I had to end the conversation. I'm right now...thinking about some topics to talk to people in field service about!!!!! OMG!!! WOW WOW AND WOW!!!!

As I told you...I choose my battles and my dads beliefs about his religion is his choice and I don't even try and reason with him.

...so I said Dad, I just called to let you all know I love and miss you. I will talk to you later.

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Why Isn't the USA the Safest Country in the World With All the Guns

by RubaDub in

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we have 9 guns for every 10 people in this country.

since more guns = better protection, i keep asking myself why there is so much gun violence here ???.

i don't see such violence in canada, australia, europe, japan and other so-called "advanced" countries.. what is wrong with us here.

happytobefree

Christalone: But that's the thing, jgnat! It is EASIER to get crack than it is to get a gun! And crack is illegal. Making guns illegal may actually backfire and make guns ALOT more easy to obtain.

REALLY?

I know where I can purchase a gun right now!!my local Walmart...less than a quarter mile away.

but do not have a clue where to buy crack...or even know anyone who I even suspect using crack.

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First Ex-JW Experience with XMas Spirit

by simon17 in

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so obviously as a recently parting jw, i've never had the hastle, the annoyance or the joy of experiencing christmas.

this year in our office was the first time that we did a secret santa, so i would joke with a few of the people looking for advice because i had never really celebrated christmas.

it was kind of a fun running joke for the past month or two, as they laughed and pitied over my past with me, which they pried about and i explained.

happytobefree

That is so AWESOME!!! That's the Christmas Spirit at work!!!

I hope you continue to have a wonderful First Christmas!!!

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The January 1st Watchtower Admits That JWs Have Been Wrong As To Their Expectations Of The End!...but

by minimus in

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they excuse it by saying, it's ok since at least they were on the watch.. i believe they should think about god's view of watchmen who constantly gave false pronouncements.

they would be judged accordingly by god!.

happytobefree

I wonder what REALLY prompted them to publish this article?

I hope it's decling number.

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hmm i am being warned about!

by unstopableravens in

im out eating with a friend who is a nonbaptized jw ,he told me his grandfather who is an elder ,that im apostate.

i went down and talk to this elder about two weeks ago he called me ask how i was , i went down and showed him old light and new light about fds.

i was very respectful.

happytobefree

unstopableraven....thE way you are allowing your wife to treat you and the JW folks...is why i recommend seeing a therapist.

...this is abuse....and you need to learn how to handle boundaries. When you learn to set boundaries...this will empower you immensely. You also need to learn what make YOU HAPPY!!!! This will be beneficial to help you with what ever life bring you....you will be able to adapt and still find JOY!!!

Life is not predictable. I think this why people find peace in the JW...it is very predictable...people are told how to handle every aspect of their life...and they know what to expect. You know what day the meetings are...you know what youare going to learn..when you don't have the answer...you have the answer, wait on Jehovah, etc. Outside of the organization...you actually get to make choices and people don't have to agree and tow the line (they can actually do as they please as well)...it's kind of hard to accept at first. You cannot go and tell the brothers on them or guilt them with WT garbage. You cannot use your great reasoning your learned in KM school. You have to just accept them as they are and live your life.

As everyone keep telling you SLOW DOWN. I would take the time to get to know THYSELF. I think the JW faith is like a alcoholic...you have many years of covering up your feelings with the drug...that you just stop growing mentally and spiritually.

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hmm i am being warned about!

by unstopableravens in

im out eating with a friend who is a nonbaptized jw ,he told me his grandfather who is an elder ,that im apostate.

i went down and talk to this elder about two weeks ago he called me ask how i was , i went down and showed him old light and new light about fds.

i was very respectful.

happytobefree

unstopableraven...why is there a need for your wife to come out. Will you love her any less if she decided to stay in?

I'm a woman....and what we want as women...no matter the religion is security. So just love your wife and live on....you need to slow down...it may have been 3 years....but you are still in the JW mentality (YOU ARE...not just your wife). Just by you keep saying you don't want to lie...when someone ask you how come you have not been to the KH. You are a grown man...why is it your responsibility to let them know why you do anything.

I have been out for 12 years and the JW crap still affects me. You see people posting here everyday and have been away for 30 years, etc....so obviously it's still affecting them in some way.

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hmm i am being warned about!

by unstopableravens in

im out eating with a friend who is a nonbaptized jw ,he told me his grandfather who is an elder ,that im apostate.

i went down and talk to this elder about two weeks ago he called me ask how i was , i went down and showed him old light and new light about fds.

i was very respectful.

happytobefree

unstopableravens I'm a Christian..Jesus loving...borned and raised JW who has not BEEN Disfellowshipped or Disassocaited myself. And lived in a small town of 50,000 people and managed to fade. By just keeping my mouth shut.

This is the church I attend diligently www.ndcbf.org - but it was a process...I started out hating all religion, I attended every kind of religious cermony...Jewish, Wiccan, Baptist, Luthern, Catholic, etc. I just really enjoyed by journey of discovery.

What is your hurry...if you have accepted Christ as your Lord and Savior...you are SAVED!!! You are not a JW there is not works to complete. You are save by GRACE...there is nothing you can do lose it and there is not you did to earn it.

...so you should listen to this advice LWT has given you the BEST ADVICE!!! PERIOD!!!

You need to look in the mirror...you are a JW without the beliefs...same mentality. You really need to get some professional assistance before you throw your family away!!! If you love your wife and your family...stop discussing JW matters with your wife, with your friends, relatives, etc. Stop with the church talk...you can have church on- line, on the television.

You are too close to the situation and you are headed for danger!!!!! You are taking a GREAT chance of losing it all...when you don't have to.