So anyways im still going to meetings cause of my folks, my dad mainly. But i stopped wearing the jacket, it is actually quite liberating. Ive also started wearing a chain with the NA( narcotics anonymous) Logo on it. When the bros ask what is it and i tell them the say "why are you wearing that to the meeting, I simply say "cause i want to". I also started wearing shades to the meeting, An elder asked are those perscription or are they just to look cool My response to look cool. Not being baptized they can do didily-squat. I truly am the black sheep of the flock Lol. On another note i always comment at every meeting so my mind dont turn to mush and i always make a very good point. Like this thursday during the bible highlights we were reveiwing john 8-11. I scanned it to find a scripture i liked and saw the begining of chap 8 which is in small print at the bottom because supposedly it was omitted from certain manuscripts but i think its because of its content. Any ways it was about the scribs and pharisees bring the women who commited adultery and how acording to the mosaic law she should be stoned. This is were Jesus say the famous quote "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" NWT( Let he who is sinless throw the first stone) so they all leave one by one and long story short Jesus forgives her. I mention this and tied in the splinter in you bros eye while you got a rafter in your own eye and said what jesus is telling us that before we judge others we need to do our own "self examination". I know the bro didnt want to call on my cause i was the jacket-less, rolled up slave, NA chain having, shade wearing black sheep, Of the cong. But i said what i had to say and i made all those stone throwing rafter having Judger's of others think. Unless they tuned me out. Not everyone can handle a free mind. :-p Peace
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its great having a free mind
by Ex-smoker inso anyways im still going to meetings cause of my folks, my dad mainly.
but i stopped wearing the jacket, it is actually quite liberating.
ive also started wearing a chain with the na( narcotics anonymous) logo on it.
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Proved Dub Dad wrong
by Ex-smoker inso any ways i lost my job last week and decided to grow a goatee.
i stay with my dad and we were having a conversation and he pointed at my goat and said "shave that" i said no.
he said jws dont have beards.
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So any ways i lost my job last week and decided to grow a goatee. I stay with my dad and we were having a conversation and he pointed at my goat and said "shave that" I said no. He said JWs dont have beards. Not being baptized myself i could've pointed out that technically im not a dub but instead i said 'Jesus had a beard". To my surprise my dad said no he didn't those pictures of jesus from christendom where he has long hear and a beard are false he had short are and was clean shavin. I instantly grabbed a copy of the greatest man book and showed him a pic of jesus with beard. And the 12 apostles with beard. and all of his followers with beard. Only person without beard was a roman solder. I said see christian's have beards and non christian don't so there. His response was " i stand corrected" he admitted he was wrong only when i showed from jw books Wonder what else i can convince him?
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Just Venting
by Ex-smoker inwell tonight i was at the meeting and i got really pissed.
during the local needs part the gave the c.o.s report of the congragation then the po started harping on the fact that 50% of the cong is low hour publishers.
he started saying how we need to keep up with the avg of 9.6 i looked over at my dad and he looked so sad.
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Well tonight i was at the meeting and i got really pissed. During the local needs part the gave the C.O.s report of the congragation then the PO started harping on the fact that 50% of the cong is low hour publishers. He started saying how we need to keep up with the avg of 9.6 i looked over at my dad and he looked so sad. I hate the way they make him feel so small because hes only able to do a couple of hours a month. On a positive note i got to talk to the elders and postpone the Baptism Questions(Praise the lord) To my suprise they didnt try to convince otherwise just said when i am ready i can let them know. I am so grateful for JWD it gives me a place where i can talk about my feelings with out being judged. Thanks for being here guys Ex-smoker
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Interesting Book Study Stories
by Ex-smoker inwith the news that the book study arrangement might be going away, alot of memories come flying back.
we used to have the study in our house for a couple of years and every week we had to clean our messy house so that it would look spic and span that night.
the cleaning sweeping, doing the dishes, cleaning the bathroom, and vacuming it was such a pain.
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Great stories guys keep them coming
Speaking of butchering the english language we have this one bro in are bs group that you cannot understand unless hes giving a straight comment from the paragraph and even then its still difficult.
There was also this one time when this brother was giving a comment about how we dont claim to know everything(which jws sometimes think they have an answer for everything at that exact moment while he was saying that the loudest thunder sounded. Kinda like go was saying something.
There was also a time after i did a bible reading that the bs conducter had me read that week. Only thing was i wasnt baptized, must've slipt his mind.
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Interesting Book Study Stories
by Ex-smoker inwith the news that the book study arrangement might be going away, alot of memories come flying back.
we used to have the study in our house for a couple of years and every week we had to clean our messy house so that it would look spic and span that night.
the cleaning sweeping, doing the dishes, cleaning the bathroom, and vacuming it was such a pain.
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With the news that the book study arrangement might be going away, alot of memories come flying back. We used to have the study in our house for a couple of years and every week we had to clean our messy house so that it would look spic and span that night. The cleaning Sweeping, doing the dishes, cleaning the bathroom, and vacuming it was such a pain. I remember sometimes i would fake sick just so i didnt have to be there and i had to hide in my room with no tv, music or nothing, whenever i had to go to the bathroom while hiding-out i felt like i was sneaking there so no one would hear me.
I cant remember anything else Really Interesting so i'd like to here your Book Study Stories
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Bible translations
by Ex-smoker inbefore i got ahold of the info about the jws on the net i had started to read the christion greek scriptures.
now that i know about changes of words in the nwt i want to read a different traslation.
any suggestionis as which one i should go with?
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Before i got ahold of the info about the JWs on the net i had started to read the Christion greek scriptures. Now that I know about Changes of words in the NWT i want to read a different traslation. Any suggestionis as which one i should go with?
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Thank You !!!!!!!!!!
by Ex-smoker infirst off i just want to appologize for my bad grammer it was never one of my strong points.
second i want to say thanks to every one who responded to my first post the advise was great.
i was having a convosation with my mom about certain shaddy history and the idea behind recreation(resurection) when my sister chimed in (she's baptized by the way)with what she thought was a questionable veiw later she(my sis wanted to talk in private and to my surprise she isnt brainwashed.
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First off I just want to appologize for my bad grammer it was never one of my strong points. Second i want to say thanks to every one who responded to my first post the advise was great. I was having a convosation with my mom about certain Shaddy history and the idea behind recreation(resurection) when my sister chimed in (she's baptized by the way)with what she thought was a questionable veiw later she(my sis wanted to talk in private and to my surprise she isnt brainwashed. She thought i was Brainwashed because of the front i was putting up to please my parents and me and my sis conected in a way that we never did before.
As i mentioned before prior to my rediscovery of Info about the JW's i had already gotten the baptism ball rolling. Yesterday at the meeting the PO gave me a card with three of the elders on it and the first Bro talked to me and said when are you available to go over the ?s i said next saturday and gave him my #. After ward i told my sis and she said DONT GET BAPTIZED and the i saw the advise from my first post and needless to say i was in a quandry.
So i wanted to back out of this thing but i didnt want to disapoint my dad. I was so anxious that i bought a pack of Cigs, somthing i hadnt done in six months and was digusted with myself. I went to my 12step program for overeaters which is also a problem i contribute to the cult and talked to my frined about what i was going through. And didnt know if i should go through with it just to please my dad and she said the most important thing i heard " you gotta live for you and no one else".
So i throw out the cigs went home watched a lil tv and had a massive headache. My dad could tell i was stressed and asked what was wrong and i told him well the bro PO set up the ?s for baptism for me but the more i think about it the more i relze im doing it just to please you because while i belize a lot of what we teach i still have some doubts. He said you dont have to get baptized jehovah doesnt force so im not going to force you and i love you no matter what, you can take all the time you need. If it hadnt been for the advise here and from my sis i might have gone through with it. I can believe i was almost assimilated.
My only thing now is how do i back out of the ?s with the elders any suggestions?
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How the new "generation" study went down in the meeting today
by slimboyfat ini made a big effort to get to the watchtower study today.
i have not been to the meetings much for months, but i figured this was a pretty historic "study" and i wanted to see reactions and how it would go down locally.
well a few things struck me as a bit odd in the study itself, and in the audience response as well.
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When we got to the questions about the generation i made it interesting i commented on the understading prior to 1995 and the maginzine that had the "annoited" on the cover saying this generation will not pass away. I made mention of how its almost like there going back to the old teaching but not putting a limit, the conducter made the remark wow you did some reserch. After the meeting every one was saying what fine comments and one sis even said your right theve gone back and forth on this. I thinks me made some people think
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FUN TEST! I am 37% JW!! Post your percentage here plz
by Tired of the Hypocrisy ini found this online.
i have not seen it on here before so i thought i would post it.
it is a test to determine if you belong in the jw religion.
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Im 50% which makes sense as im in and out on the fence
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I dont know what to do
by Ex-smoker inok so i was raised in the truth and a lot of jw belifes are indoctrinated in me(big suprize) the main ones being that the dead are conscies of nothing and that jesus is gods son and not god.
i never got baptized and at 17 i started to doubt all orginized religion but in the back of my mind saying that if theres no hell why serve god.
at 21 my life was a mess i was addicted to drugs and thought that it was satans system that was doing this to me and i should give the truth a chance again so i moved back home.
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Ok so i was raised in the truth and a lot of JW belifes are indoctrinated in me(big suprize) The main ones being that the dead are conscies of nothing and that jesus is gods son and not god. i never got baptized and At 17 i started to doubt all orginized religion but in the back of my mind saying that if theres no hell why serve god. at 21 my life was a mess i was addicted to drugs and thought that it was satans system that was doing this to me and i should give the truth a chance again so i moved back home. after a week or so i was convinced that i was being brainwashed so i looked it up on line and found all the info that shocked me to the very core(the failed predictions of the past, the changes in stances by the societ, belonging to the UN as an NGO the changes they made in the bible among many other things, I made plans to move in with my brother and showed the info i found with my family well they said it was lie's and apostate and yadda yadda yadda. Anyways i lived with my brother for a while and then moved to miami till i was 23 where my drug addiction got worse to the point where i thought the world was coming to an end and my friends were using my because they were worldly. So in march i had a conversation with my father he could tell i was despondent and might hurt myself i told him i wanted to come home he said that ment going to the meetings and i said fine anything to get clean. Anyways long story short i went into rehab and have been clean for over a year. I started making progree to the point were i wanted to get baptized at the next assembly mainly to please my dad. I also started going to a fellowship for compulsive overeaters for the last couple of months. begining this week i had a conversation were i relized i might be gay, this led me to find a website about gay JWs which led to finding out about raymond franz and a crisses of conscience which led to other websites and finally here. Im on the fence i dont know what to do. I wish my parents could except me for who i am but thats no possible. I also need there support as i am not able to live on my own. I also dont want to lose my dads love. But if i get baptized and dedicate myself to that manmade organization i'll be going against jesus. Im going through an inner turmoil that is leading to me constantly eating and i dont know what to do. HELP