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JW wife says she loves me more often NOW???? Should I test that?
by oompa ini was pm with a@g and have with others here in the one-in-one-out marriage situation, and have a question.
time flies.....i have been considered apostate for at least two years now, and it seems my wife says she loves me all the time....almost makes me uncomfortable.
i have changed, not her, and i realize that.
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Wow. I'm glad I didn't miss this thread.
Doofdaddy nailed it for me:
Being a jw is like being in a one act play over and over.
You put on a costume, put on a face, put on an attitude, then you go home to a semblance of normality.
Like actors in a play that goes for years,after a while the lines come out without thought. The mind separates. The gb cannot really control people any more than a director of a play.
That's exactly how I felt the past couple years without realizing why. I thought I was lacking in some way and I can now understand why I've seen friends plunge into pioneering. It gets so repetitive that you don't even think about what you're doing and then you feel compelled to DO MORE cuz you're not happy. It's not just NY that has all the rules. About 10 or 12 years ago, hubby and I were touring around and decided to find the Bethel in Ireland. It's on a coastal road south of Dublin so we eventually found it. We stopped to see if we could have a tour and they were welcoming but noticed our casual dress and said maybe we should leave the tour for the next day when we could dress appropriately. So we came back the next day. The Irish Bethel has 10 to 12 Bethelites. They mainly only handle distribution of literature and organizing the assemblies. The printing is all done in the UK. We were the only couple there having a tour so I'm not sure who could have potentially noticed our casual dress the day before. The Irish are generally laid-back people but we still had to follow the rules. It seems pretty silly now. I can't believe they'd tell you what to wear in NYC after your visit to Bethel. Oh wait, yes I can, because they always want the brothers and sisters to stay in their stuffy, stuck to you with dried sweat, wrinkled convention clothes (with badges still showing) to dinner after the sessions. Same good advice still applies.
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JW wife says she loves me more often NOW???? Should I test that?
by oompa ini was pm with a@g and have with others here in the one-in-one-out marriage situation, and have a question.
time flies.....i have been considered apostate for at least two years now, and it seems my wife says she loves me all the time....almost makes me uncomfortable.
i have changed, not her, and i realize that.
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oompa and the rest of you in the same scenario,
I feel for you guys. I'm pretty new here so I don't know everyone's history. Hubby (MissingLink) and I had some terribly emotional conversations at the end of last year. At the time, I felt terribly alone and was on the verge of being convinced that I was going to have to live as a JW in a divided household. That REALLY didn't appeal cuz my mom was a JW but my dad and brothers weren't, so I'd already lived that scene and knew it wasn't fun. I decided to give my hubby a chance cuz he's been my best friend for two decades. Even though the UN thing and pedophile reports upset me, I still sort of figured there's two sides to every story. I admit they unsettled my faith but weren't the deciding factor. Upon seeing the total misuse of quoting outside sources, that was another story. That settled it for me that if they had to stoop to misquoting sources, then their intentions were NOT in my best interests, did not bring honor to any God, and qualified as lying - which God hates (supposedly).
I gave my hubby a chance to show me what upset him so much because I knew it was our whole family's future at stake. So, like previous posters have said, there has to be some trust extended.
Does your wife still see you read WT literature? If so, then maybe you can help her prepare for the upcoming WT article (june 9 -15) Young People, Remember Your Grand Creator Now. It has the Oct. 1, 2005 WT article (about education) in the footnote. So look up the misquotes from the box at the end. I know the Newsweek and American Educator articles are on their own websites. If you need a link, let me know.
If your wife can rationalize those lies without creating doubt, then I'd love to know how she does that. Does she usually trust people that lie to her? And how much could they actually have right since they can't even write a simple article about education without bias and misquoting? Just some thoughts to ask her.
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Do you think the guys in the Governing Body belive in the Governing Body?
by Samuel Thorsen ini presume they do.
they are probably so intoxicated by their own power that they belive in the never ending rubbish.. or am i wrong?
is there other reasons to stay on the top of the hill?.
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I think each GB member only sees a portion of things going on in the Society, so any imperfections or issues that aren't being taken care of, they probably have the same thinking as the rest of the JW's - that is - God will take care of things in His time. I'm doubting that even a fraction of them are knowledgeable of the WT's history, Biblical discrepancies/errors, or misquoting sources in the articles. Do you think any of those men ever go near a computer or internet?
I don't know how they can believe they are guided by holy spirit and I wonder how they can change "understandings" and not have doubts themselves when it's apparent that they are only making guesses, reverting to old understandings, or inputting personal opinions. It seems ludicrous. But if it's the only thing you know, then it's amazing at what you can get accustomed to. I was basically raised in so I'm still shaking my head in bewilderment at how I accepted things for so long without knowing any better.
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QFR: Can Cristians Go Paragliding?
by MissingLink ini was out with some jw friends.
one elder, 3 ministerial servants, and lowly fading inactive publisher missinglink in a car looking for something fun to do.
we saw someone paragliding off a mountain.
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QFR: Do we ever give a positive answer if rank and file have to ask us a question? errr, NO. If you have to ask, then it's a no-go.
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Do JWs really believe the end is near?
by keyser soze inor do they merely pay lip service to the idea?
i have no doubt that some of them sincerely believe.
but when i was a kid, growing up in the '80s, i didn't know of a single witness, myself included, who didn't believe the end was close.
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In the 80's, I knew plenty of sisters that didn't marry, didn't buy houses, didn't have children. But I don't see it hardly at all in the area that I am now. Does anyone know of ones that are putting their lives on hold for the new system? I don't think you'd find many. My mom reminded me last week that "I better make sure I'm on the Ark because the new system is so close. It could be tomorrow or in 50 years, but it's sooo close." It sounded so desperate and pathetic when she said it that I still am not sure what I made of her tone. Maybe it was just because she's upset at my own attitude and inactivity or maybe she has her own worries and doubts. Don't know. I wasn't supposed to grow old and die and I'm sure all the ones raised/born in have that in the backs of their minds. Once they made the change from the 1914 generation, I sort of got sick of hearing the last days rubbish.
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Keep Yourselves In God's Love: Why Birthdays are from the Devil
by truthseeker inyes folks, if you thought the watchtower would lighten up on birthdays think again.... .
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lol moshe. I like your way of thinking.
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Did God really warn mankind before the Flood of Noah?
by moshe injw's think they are doing a work just like noah did before the flood.
they say that noah's witness lasted for 40 years.
other than a few traders who moved around, i doubt that most tribal people would be able to safely travel to see noah's work in progress.
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Fresia, you've been relying on the WT too much. The scriptures say that God decided to destroy all mankind except Noah. Read Gen. 6:
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Consequently Jehovah saw that the badness of man was abundant in the earth and every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only bad all the time. 6 And Jehovah felt regrets that he had made men in the earth, and he felt hurt at his heart. 7 So Jehovah said: "I am going to wipe men whom I have created off the surface of the ground, from man to domestic animal, to moving animal and to flying creature of the heavens, because I do regret that I have made them." 8 But Noah found favor in the eyes of Jehovah.According to the account, God had already decided to destroy everyone and only made provision for Noah and his family.
I've only just recently learned that other translations of Matt. 24:37-39 read differently than the NWT. Check out www.biblegateway.com and see how other translations read. It say that they were unaware, they didn't know, they didn't understand....
Even the Society's own purple Kingdom Interlinear says that "they knew not" in the direct Greek translation, so the WT's stance that Noah was actively preaching and warning people doesn't make sense if the majority were unaware or didn't know.
Just check out other threads on the subject of Noah and you'll rethink the whole scenario.
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Keep Yourselves In God's Love: Why Birthdays are from the Devil
by truthseeker inyes folks, if you thought the watchtower would lighten up on birthdays think again.... .
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You're so right truthseeker. It's just an anniversary of someone being born for goodness sake! I simply love how they present Satanism and birthdays in the box. Lovely. I wanna be just like a Satanist. Thanks WTS for your continuous propaganda.
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My Story - Part 1
by Jeremy C ini have never posted my personal story about my years as a jw, and my departure from the organization.
i thought that my personal story might be of interest.
it is my hope that some of my experiences and observations might be of help to some of you who have recently left the organization.
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Hi Jeremy. Your story brought back so many memories from when I was young. Can't wait to see more.
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