http://www.reuters.com/newsarticle.jhtml?type=topnews&storyid=5166415
And while we are on this topic ... here is another issue that drive me nuts that I now found out was true:
A British inquiry, led by Lord Butler, into pre-war intelligence is about to conclude that the MI6 were justified in claiming Saddam was trying to buy uranium from Niger.
http://www.steynonline.com/index2.cfm?edit_id=68
I still remember the press harping about this last year and even going so far as telling me the American and British administrations were misleading people.
http://www.reuters.com/newsarticle.jhtml?type=topnews&storyid=5166415
The question is not whether or not Saddam was in violation of UN rules. The question is whether or not you take the extraordinary measure of invading and occupying and killing alot of Iraqis and Americans and thereby weakening our defenses and taking your eye off the ball on terrorism and diluting greatly our mission to bring Osama bin Laden to justice and giving life to a whole new crop of enraged muslims, just because Saddam was being "defiant" and stepping over the line of UN rules.And the answer is obvious. No, you don't.
Respectfully, I completely disagree with your response. Why? As just one example, Pakistan/coalition attacks on Taliban and al Q forces over the last few years in the southwestern province of Pakistan and Eastern Afganistan. I note in the back pages of today's press reports that another terrorist main figure ... a tribal leader in the region ... was killed by Pakistan troops. I also note that yesterday Yemon put on trial those who were responsible for the Cole attack except for the main dude who is in USA custody. Let's be real, its not the governments that have taken their eye off Afganistan or the W on T. No No. Its the press who has taken their eye off the 15,000 - 20,000 American troops in Eastern Afganistan and the other 4,500 coalition troops patrolling Kabol (including the 2,000 or so Canadian troops that I might point out to you). Just like the press has taken their eye off the thousands of people butchered by Sadam and who are in mass graves in Iraq that makes the GW2 and its aftermath look like a walk in the park. Just like the press who doesn't want to report what the Carter doctrine is all about and its importance to US foreign policy. And why? Well ... its boring news with the American occupation of Iraq stuff going on. I can go on and on. And no doubt you will go on and on. But my point is that people need to get their collective heads out of the sand. The war is over and the clean up and handover back to the people of Iraq (including their oil I might point out) is proceeding. The 12 shells found so far plus the 2 (of the 16) found by the Polish troops and confirmed by the coalition are a serious indicator of a problem. And this problem is that there is a good likelihood that a number of WMD shells exist in many caches that are not in the control of the coalition. These WMDs could make it into the wrong hands and then (as was almost the case of Jordan just a few short months ago) we could have a city under attack with these weapons. hawk
http://www.reuters.com/newsarticle.jhtml?type=topnews&storyid=5166415
exactly....i cant understand why this is such a hard concept for some to grasp. ONE shell is ONE more than he claimed to have unaccounted for. i just dont get this mentality that says:
You have to remember the many in the press have told us that NO WMDs have been found or will be found in Iraq. To report what the UN resolutions stated with the quantifiable evidence is a bit to much for the mainstream press. Then, add that with what some in the anti-war crowd have been wrongly spouting (which are some of the most stupidest things I have ever heard) as well as an election year in the USA and of course all you will see is this insane attempt to move the "goal posts". I tella, I still have Neil MacDonald (Washington corespondent for CBC) up here in Canada spewing this stupid line of reasoning that no WMDs have been found even after the May 26, 2004 confirmation of the 155 mm shell. And of course CBC or any other mainstream media in Canada has yet to actually report the occurence of the 155 mm shell. Also remember Hans Blix and other UN inspectors have staked their reputations on this fact that there are NO WMDs as well. So that also adds to this mentality. At least David Kaye wasn't as stupid as Blix.
People, whether they are for or against this "past" war (which is now a reconstruction effort similar to Gernany after WW2), need to realize that there is now quanitifiable evidence of the existence of these WMDs and there is a very serious danger that these weapons will get into the wrong hands.
hawk
dear friends,.
of course, the jw doctrine says "no" to a connection between un and the watchtower society.. but: my personal opinion as a long-time witness is that this was a ultimate chance for the society to change things for good: the wts as a ngo, helping many people in the world to improve their lives, just as they did on a small scale with aidafrique in africa and asia earlyer.. why did the wts disconnected from un so soon after the guardian-story?
now, there are only losers, no winners: the wts, with all the pr-problems on this subject now, but more important, the many people who could be helped with a wts/unhcr aid-program or an aidafrique/unhcr aid-program.. the reaction of disconnecting so soon as possible was not a professional act!.
To ALL:
Careful on our choice of words when trying to explain this to other JWs.
The WTS is and always will be a NGO. Why? Because it is a registered not for profit company.
The key to this story is that the WTS voluntarily applied to the UN, voluntarily agreed to the UN criteria of support for the UN Charter and to dissiminate positive UN information. Based on their application and agreement, the WTS recieved accreditation as an "Non Governmental Organization associated with the United Nations' Department of Public Information".
Therefore, when dealing with this incident, it is wise to remember that WTS is and always will be a NGO. But, between 1992 to 2001 it was an "associated NGO" with the DPI.
hawk
http://www.reuters.com/newsarticle.jhtml?type=topnews&storyid=5166415
wasasister. Far from "jumping" on anything I simply reported the facts as presented in the news releases and also echoed the analysis that I have heard from every news source - that this is NO proof of WoMD and is just a left-over shell.
Lets keep moving the "goal posts". Fact is that sarin, especially the 155 mm binary shell, is defined as a WMD by the UN. The liquids in binary shell, when fired, will mix to form deadly sarin gas - 3 to 4 litres. Its nasty stuff in the right environment. Whether or not the shell was before or after GW1 is a mute point. Under UN resolutions Sadam was prescribed to account for all of his WMDs. Sadam said to the world (including Dan Rather) that he had accounted for all of his WMDs. But the facts are that the coalition has found this binary Sarin shell, a mustard gas shell and others. Sadam was in violation of the UN resolution on WMDs. hawk
blood -- wts questions and sound answers 3
w91 1/15 p. 29 the pure language unites a great crowd of worshipers ***: ?jehovah?s witnesses abstain from blood?
do jws abstain from blood?
Oneofmany:
You made an excellent point but one minor point of clarification.
Hemoglobin represents 14.8 percent of whole blood. I believe water at about 80 percent represents the largest parameter in blood. Dr. Sam has given you the break down at AJWRB for you.
Hemoglobin represents about 97 percent of a red blood cell by dry weight. I think that is what you meant to say. Also, always make sure you point out that you are taking in "dry weight" as well. Because the number changes when one starts talking volume instead of weight.
FWIW, Marvin is making some outstanding points ... as usual.
hawk
by now most have heard about or had opportunity to read the june 15, 2004 watchtower.
the article will be added to the ajwrb web site shortly.
lee elder .
Outstanding and well done.
Someone who clearly understands the problems with the WTS's clasification of so-called blood components.
hawk
sorry if this is old news; but in case it is new, uh, news.... .
i just got off the phone with my mum.
she said that a 2nd cousin, who works in new york bethel, is coming to canada bethel for about three months, as part of the move of their largest print press to bethel canada.
Just my luck they will next move their entire headquarters to Canada onto the 66 acre site in the Georgetown Ontario area.
silentlambs will attend the national convention of snap (survivors network for those abused by priests) on june 11-13 in denver colorado .
william h. bowen will speak on the topic,.
?is it possible jehovah?s witnesses are far worse than main-stream religion when dealing with child abuse??
Well done Bill, well done.
This working with other groups really helps in bringing the issues out.
hawk
the watchtower, june 15, 2004 issue, pages 14-24:.
" for the benefit of current readers, the answer is reprinted on pages 29-31 of this magazine.
19 near its conclusion, the reprinted answer on pages 29-31 says: "does the fact that opinions and conscientious decisions may differ mean that the issue is inconsequential?
