Revelation states that the souls of those murdered for bearing witness jesus cry out from under the alter and told to rest a little while longer until the last of the bretheren die by the ax. The whole thing is a death pact. IMO The writing on the wall for this old world is written in the blood of the souls slautered for following in christs steps.
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Are some of the anointed ones now already ressurrected and gone to heaven as the society claim?
by Truthexplorer infrankly, i am a little bit confused by this teaching.
well when i read 1 thes 4:13-18, it contradicts what the society claim.. paul wrote -.
moreover, brothers, we do not want you to be ignorant concerning those who are sleeping [in death]; that you may not sorrow just as the rest also do who have no hope.
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Are some of the anointed ones now already ressurrected and gone to heaven as the society claim?
by Truthexplorer infrankly, i am a little bit confused by this teaching.
well when i read 1 thes 4:13-18, it contradicts what the society claim.. paul wrote -.
moreover, brothers, we do not want you to be ignorant concerning those who are sleeping [in death]; that you may not sorrow just as the rest also do who have no hope.
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Revelation states that the souls of those murdered for bearing witness jesus cry out from under the alter and told to rest a little while longer until the last of the bretheren die by the ax. The whole thing is a death pact. IMO The writing on the wall for this old world is written in the blood of the souls slautered for following in christs steps.
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Most-Ignored Scriptures by JWs
by Mad Sweeney inthe watchtower has been known for over 130 years as a great scriptural cherry-picker.
they pick out disparate unrelated verses and combine them to support the wackiest of wacky doctrines.. on the other hand there are many scriptures they almost never address, whether because they contradict wt doctrine or because they simply don't have a clue what they mean or how to spin them to the wt advantage.. one of these is revelation 19:1 that mentions a "great crowd" "in heaven.
" the only time it is ever brought up it is dismissed.
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actually the mind your own buisness stuff was in recent pubs. Of course the only thing that mattered was that you could answer the question on the bottom of the page not that the message ever sinks in. I know they don't like the scripture where Paul tell women to remain silent in the church. They seriously twist some scripture to conclude that women are in the 144k .They insist the bible doesn't contradict when there are several obvious places it does .
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If the Governing Body had candor ....
by wannabefree inanother newbie thought ... i believe i saw another recent post mention a similar thought ... it is about the candor of those eaking the lead of jehovah's wintesses, namely, the governing body.. i have been bothered by this for some time now.
our publications point out one of the reasons we trust the bible's accuracy is the candor of its writers ... (yes, our publications, it is the natural was for me to speak at this time).. if only.
i really don't think i would have gotten to the point i am at if the organization was candor about mistakes.
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Yah the WTBTS is one of the best white wash artists going , they are obviously full of dead mens bones as well . Don't even ask about the UN deal or you'll be talking to lawyers who's education was bought and paid for by the rank and file who thought they were donating to the international preaching work . They flatly sold out to the devil if they agreed to the UN mandate verbally or in writing , doesn't matter. and nobody believes it was for a library card .
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What Do You Think Of Israel & Obama's Relationship?
by minimus init seems that obama and netanyahu cannot work together and israel is being isolated.
the two men had a recent falling out and once again israel looks like they will have to fend for themselves in the arab world.
what i see is the usa distancing themselves from israel and becoming more pro-arab..
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Yah , hellllllooooooooooooooo , we are trillions of dollars in debt and did those basterds ever offer a dime ? only more debt. Way past time to cut and run .
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Remember that Elder that stopped by my house in December ?
by troubled mind inwell i ran into him at the grocery store the other night ......why is it that my throat still tightens up and i get this anxious laugh when i talk to him ?
i want to be confident and assertive ,but ultimately i end up acting like a blubbering idiot !.
backstory is that he stopped by in december because i had put winter decorations out on my porch and he wanted to know if we were indeed celebrating christmas now .
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Do what I did and resign from the church that way it's only a DA and not DF , They still can't talk to you but there's no JC.
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I remember one odd prayer where the elder saying suddenly starts talking to someone : " Are you praying for extra help brother so and so", I'm like, what the hell kind of weird s$&* is that . I'm telling you these people are nuts.
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Memorial partakers
by etna ini think its probably too soon, but if anyone knows how many partakers of the emblems this year?.
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I thought the apostle Paul said to stop doing the lords evening meal when christ returned . They believe that he returned invisibly in 1914 and he will only come back as the clouds , so what's the point?
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New article on Catholic child abuse coverup scandal - Washington Post
by besty inhttp://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/panelists/paula_kirby/2010/04/and_still_they_keep_digging.html.
consultant to secular organizations.
paula kirby.
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It's obvious that the coverups are just about the money they would lose in law suits. AFA I'm concerned the catholic church is just the head of the whore of babylon but if they go under will free about a billion people from it's satanic grip . I come from a long line of catholics who won't break free from it's influence . They clearly have to do something to protect these children but the sad part is that the governments are also about child abuse , so even if they take custody of the orphans or do anything to protect the kids it will likely turn into another bad situation.
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The 14,400-Anointed JWs, are they only whites no people of color???
by Scott77 inis samuel hard's appointment to gb, an attempt of jw to fight off racial accusation?
why is that the majority of 144000 are only white people?
if the 144000 is an equal representation of all people from the earth, how about the chinese?
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I think the touched part goes for the great crowd as well .I did tell them my opinion one time and they totally freaked out , ok then why does Revelation say they don't defile themselves with women ? To me it means they give up their sexual apetite or relations to preach the kingdom message far and wide . I can agree that the apostle Paul writings are very conflicting on the subject . One minute it's ,be as if you don't have a wife and the next it's give the wife her due in bed . They do also have to die at the hands of political oposers , I don't believe natural causes qualify.