I was close to doing the dunk but because of the hypocrisy and absolute idiocy of the congregation here , I back out every time and it's been several tries but this time the change in dogma is very serious as to the generation , their involvement with the UN and the gag order never to discuss it ,say it is the truth so why not? If you're not willing to carry around a blood card and sign it in front of the elders they mark you as bad association . How insane is that? That's some freedom in Christ there .... I know they do stalk members or prospective members and then rat out their activities to the elders and God forbid you should share some paranormal experiences , jeeze the only thing they deem worthy of discussing is how well they do at the doors talking to householders .
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What about your vow to Jehovah?
by a watcher indid you get baptized without being dedicated?.
why did you allow men to come between you and jehovah?.
why were you serving jehovah at all?
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The two-tiered Christian system. WHY?!
by DATA-DOG inthe wtbts asserts that the great crowd of [ other sheep ] teaching arose as an answer to the confusion of the rank-and-file, correct?
what confusion?
does anyone know any specifics?
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A classic unveiling - millions now living will never die . A false prophesy up until recently, now the generation is unidentifiable and over lapping . The second heavenly class became the earthling class and now are merely the second resurrection class .
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The two-tiered Christian system. WHY?!
by DATA-DOG inthe wtbts asserts that the great crowd of [ other sheep ] teaching arose as an answer to the confusion of the rank-and-file, correct?
what confusion?
does anyone know any specifics?
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LOL prologus . Yep the dooms day prepers show should take a look at their bunker. The way I see it is that the 12 tribes took on new meaning and they represent the saints who are adopted by holy spirit and symbolically called Israel of GOD . They get the gifts of the spirit such as prophesy , the early church could do faith healing and such and speak in tonges . The WTBTS does at times appear to be able to discern the scriptures since interpretations belong to GOD , it can only be done with holy spirit . The bible really doesn't say much about the GC other than saying they are blessed for their acts of faith and kindness toward the LF . Jesus said that he would judge people on how they treated ,"his brothers."
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The two-tiered Christian system. WHY?!
by DATA-DOG inthe wtbts asserts that the great crowd of [ other sheep ] teaching arose as an answer to the confusion of the rank-and-file, correct?
what confusion?
does anyone know any specifics?
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I think revelation 6:9-12 says it pretty clearly, prologus . When the last one is killed by the ax then the 4 winds are set loose . A very inconvenient truth that the WTBTS invented some extremely convoluted dogma to cover the fact that all it's presidents and GB have not qualified .
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The two-tiered Christian system. WHY?!
by DATA-DOG inthe wtbts asserts that the great crowd of [ other sheep ] teaching arose as an answer to the confusion of the rank-and-file, correct?
what confusion?
does anyone know any specifics?
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they then and still today refuse to acknowledge the truth about the LF . They still have dogma that is very similar to the rapture dogma of MS religion . The LF do have to die as martyrs as did jesus and the apostles , there's no dying of natural causes here . The whole last supper is entering into a martyr pact . The GC are promised the reward of never knowing death at all and surviving the chaotic end of the world .
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UFO/Aliens.
by zeb ini have just watched a u-tube produced on the 1-6-2013 in canada of a paul hellyer who was a defence minister in canada who stated at some conference that he believes that there are at least 6 different alien 'races' making regular contact with the earth.
one group is referred to as the 'tall whites'.. he understands that two individuals (alien) are working with the us government swapping intelligence and so on.
he goes on to mention this knowledge of aliens is kept from the general population by the ususal super rich nasties the proposers of world government etc.. the interview is something to watch!
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I think the WTBTS stance on existence of aliens is there is a very slim possibility but not likely . I personally seriously doubt that if there is alien life that it is highly improbable that they can travel in space ships and are visiting earth . I think most of the evidence is proven to be a hoax or natural phenomena with some that is not identifiable at the time . As I've seen spirits that look like what some claim is an alien grey description it may well be evill spirits .
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Since Great Crowd has no mediator
by sosoconfused ini am thinking that maybe i missed this discussion or something.
now for years in the org i never ever paid attention to the article that says jesus is the mediator for the 144000 alone.
yesterday talking to my 70+ year old dad he got violently angry with me and threw his cane at me because he said i was a liar.. .
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If you don't enter the covenent by eating and drinking at the memorial (as they call it) you aren't in it , obviously . You really have to be anointed with holy spirit tho to qualify and as far as I can see , there doesn't appear to be much of that going around . What made me laugh one time is when a GC elder tells me he has as much holy spirit as any LF . ROTFLMAO ... The GC only wash their robes in the blood of the lamb they are not brothers with christ as the LF are spirit adopted brothers who are expected to live and also die as Jesus did . GC never die . The whole thing of being mediator involves preparing the LF for thier heavenly role as kings. IMO
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Subtle wording in today's study article (3/15/13 WT)
by leaving_quietly inw13 3/15 p. 28 par.
"first, we must proclaim that name to others, recognizing that only those who 'call on the name of jehovah will be saved.
' (rom.
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true penelope - looked it up , been awhile on that . Don't know what they think today , I think everything is in reprint .LOL You notice it says a third of the souls in the sea die so this is about a spiritual death .IMO There are pastors out their claiming it's a war between Israel and russia or various other nonsense of course none of them will admit they lie just sound important and raise money either. Anyway those saying calling on jesus for salvation are wrong as well because jesus says , " not everyone saying to me lord lord will enter the kingdom of the heavens". We've been discussing the scripture where he turns people away.
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Subtle wording in today's study article (3/15/13 WT)
by leaving_quietly inw13 3/15 p. 28 par.
"first, we must proclaim that name to others, recognizing that only those who 'call on the name of jehovah will be saved.
' (rom.
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penelope- That is what the WTBTS believes of itself from what I recall in the revelation book . The sea representing the turbulent political climate , the instability of governments that rule on earth . The mountain is the mountain of jehovah mentioned in Isaiah. come and let's go up the mountain of jehovah and learn his ways . something like that and all people from the different nations take refuge there.
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Subtle wording in today's study article (3/15/13 WT)
by leaving_quietly inw13 3/15 p. 28 par.
"first, we must proclaim that name to others, recognizing that only those who 'call on the name of jehovah will be saved.
' (rom.
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The scripture also goes on and states a condition . One must be faithful and true . You don't just up and shout jehovah and presto you get a free pass to paradise . YOu have to face the trials and persecution in connection with jesus christ and prove, just as he did, that you are worthy . certainly the 2 commandments that jesus itterated come into play , love jehovah your GOD with all you have and your neighbor as yourself .