Posts by heathen

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announcement at service meeting

by heathen in

jw
friends

i actually went to the service meeting last night and low and behold the announcement was about the wtbts not charging interest on the loans on kingdom halls anymore but they still had to pay back the principle balance , i never knew they charged interest but think that it was a very dishonest thing for them to do to begin with .

you have to borrow money to pay for a building that the wtbts owns?

to charge interest is a very worldly practice since it was against mosaic law to do so and clearly jesus would never have asked anything of the sort .

heathen

Not one penny has ever gone for the benefit of the members.

I know that's not true , they have the farm that grows food for the bethel people and they do send relief to the afflicted around the world and of course there's the "life saving" preaching work , be that as it may. According to them the greatest thing you can do is the preaching and conversion work. People have contributed their money for the purpose of the world wide preaching work so this business of lending money that was freely given for the purpose is very dishonest to me. At least this time the statement on the halls financial situation was in the black and there were no demands for more money as I've seen in the past .

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A grave contradiction?

by dark angle in

notion: .

all mankind has sinned because our greatx4 grand father adam sinned.

sin is passed through generation.

heathen

I think the deal was that the mosaic law was about eye for an eye and life for a life , adam sentenced all mankind to the grave with with his act of rebellion then jesus made himself a sacrifice equal to the perfect human to give mankind a redeemer and also offer the faithful and true a chance at a spirit life in the kingdom of the heavens . We all suffer and die in this world regardless but the hope is a resurrection that is run by jesus . Jesus only had to give up his flesh not his soul in this thing. He went back to living as a spirit .

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"This system just cannot get any worse"

by JimmyPage in

that's what my dad has said at various times over many years.

i think it helps encourage him that the end must be very near and the paradise will be here soon.

my thought has always been "oh yes it can get a lot worse.

heathen

Things are becoming scarce. Middle class income earners are disappearing due to the out sourcing to impoverished third world nations . There are serious food shortages right now all accross the world , there's an energy crisis because the powers that be refuse to mass produce alternatives and other countries are having higher demand causing a bidding war .(according to some people).

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announcement at service meeting

by heathen in

jw
friends

i actually went to the service meeting last night and low and behold the announcement was about the wtbts not charging interest on the loans on kingdom halls anymore but they still had to pay back the principle balance , i never knew they charged interest but think that it was a very dishonest thing for them to do to begin with .

you have to borrow money to pay for a building that the wtbts owns?

to charge interest is a very worldly practice since it was against mosaic law to do so and clearly jesus would never have asked anything of the sort .

heathen

I actually went to the service meeting last night and low and behold the announcement was about the WTBTS not charging interest on the loans on kingdom halls anymore but they still had to pay back the principle balance , I never knew they charged interest but think that it was a very dishonest thing for them to do to begin with . You have to borrow money to pay for a building that the WTBTS owns? since when? To charge interest is a very worldly practice since it was against mosaic law to do so and clearly jesus would never have asked anything of the sort . I guess it took high gas prices to convince them to change, since less money is available to them because of it.

anybody with comment or info ?

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"This system just cannot get any worse"

by JimmyPage in

that's what my dad has said at various times over many years.

i think it helps encourage him that the end must be very near and the paradise will be here soon.

my thought has always been "oh yes it can get a lot worse.

heathen

It's going to get worse especially when the beast starts forcing it's mark on everybody everywhere . It's believed it may even be a nano chip embedded in the body somewhere .

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I'm leaving on a jet plane!

by purplesofa in

jw
friends

in a few hours.. to a new life, a new adventure.. thanks to the board for helping me to get to the place i am now in life.. it feels great...it's taken alot of time, thinking, pain, overcoming fears, communication and a good dose of reality.. believe me, .

it's been worth all of it.. hope everyone has a great life.. purps.

.

heathen

wish I could do the same , my life is a living hell right now . Life is too short to be miserable.

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Democrat Congress Backs Down to Bush....Again

by owenfieldreams in

jw
friends

first, they continue to fund the war in iraq by passing supplementals.

now, it looks like they are going to pass the so-called "telco amnesty" bill and basically tell their trial lawyer constituency to 'stick it'..... you resident liberals and bush haters, what's going on here?

are nancy pelosi and harry reid asleep at the switch?

heathen

they are all working together to screw all the people all the time .......obviously

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Ban The Internet

by megs in

the thought occurred to me that if post-secondary education is to be avoided, why would the wts not make a similar stance about the internet?

all dubs in good standing should burn their books and their computers... really, the internet has great propensity to open people's minds and expose them to different ideas and viewpoints.

in itself it doesn't promote critical thinking, but it certainly offers fodder for thought and expression.

heathen

Yah there's the oportunity they've been waiting for , just start their own ISP service that has only one site , the WT.org . They really are overly paranoid about the web since you can walk past porn at the gas station and most people use cuss words in public and don't like the WTBTS anyway . The web is the best way to lure newbies in on their site because most people are clueless as to the history of the org. or teachings.

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Serena Williams J W quote today

by BluesBrother in

serena.

"williams: ``i obviously am excited to see [ barack] obama out there doing his thing, but i'm a [jehovah's] witness, so i don't get involved in politics.

we stay neutral.

heathen

Has the WTBTS made a statement about the williams girls? There's no way they can support the williams girls worldly activities and save face to the R&F .IMO

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The Great Tribulation?

by Blueblades in

jw
friends

besides talking about the great tribulation and using it to scare the rank and file that it is coming real soon, when was the last watchtower study that dealt with this subject in - depth?.

i think it was somewhere in the nineties.

anyone remember and know when the watchtower did an in - depth study on this teaching?.

heathen

True tho I don't think that's the only place the word can be used , I'm looking at the quick referrence in the NWT and the word tribulation is used more liberally than what the WTBTS would attribute to it . Mathew 24:9 good example.