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  I'm an ex-dub in Dorset, England, which isn't a very good place to be an ex-dub

  by Psychotic Parrot in

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  most people here in the poole/bournemouth area of dorset (and i know i'm generalising) are not very... well, inquiring minds seem to be an aquired taste around these parts.

  i mean, there are lots of intelligent people, but they tend to be the ones who steer clear of 'the troof'.

  those who are in 'the troof' around here don't tend to have the neccessary brain capacity required to realise they are in a cult & thus they don't leave in great numbers, & those who do leave tend to do so for shallow reasons (they want sex) as opposed to my reason for leaving (i realised it's all a bag of shite).

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  Gladring

  When I was a kid, we were in Swanage, Dorset.
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  In Germany, the Watchtower logo must be removed from all kingdom halls

  by processor in

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  according to german april issue of our kingdom ministry, the watchtower logo must be removed from all kingdom halls:.

  it sais that the watchtower logo - a stylised watchtower or a watchtower with a bible - is used by the watchtower society.

  thus, it should not be used by congregations or private persons, neither on kingdom halls, stationary or anything else.

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  Purps - what date is on that KM? I don't see it on the scan.
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  THE EUCHARIST-The "Facts" Behind The Ritual!

  by Chalam in

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  i sometimes go on the wt site to have a look to see what they have to say for themselves.

  being a born-again christian i find some of the stuff make me laugh, some makes me sad and the odd thing makes me mad.

  mostly i see insidious deceit in amongst the material presented.. anyhow, here is the latest article, no doubt with the "memorial" coming up.. the eucharistthe facts behind the ritual.

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  Hi Chalam,

  Just for the interest, were you ever a JW yourself? I mean, have you always been a born-again Christian, or did you become one when you left the JWs?
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  Atheists/Theists: What is the best argument FOR theism (a God's existence) you have heard?

  by Spook in

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  i have lived for the last 3 years with two phd philosophers as roomates, both in the last year of their dissertation at reputable institutions (notre dame, penn/uic respectively).

  they are both moderate semi-christian theists after having been fundamentalists as youths.

  i have a sceince and engineering background and am a naturalist atheist former jw.

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  Thanks Elsewhere, that really cheered me up.

  Chalam - I don't think I can go anywhere here without a working definition of faith that we can both agree on.
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  Using the bible, can you show proof of the date 1914?

  by Quirky1 in

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  well?

  i need proof....

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  Gladring

  It is impossible to prove any date from the bible alone. The bible uses relative dating, ie. in the tenth year of the king in the third month...

  To provide an absolute date, you must rely on archaeology and other secular sources.
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  I was tricked by Jehovah’s Witnessess!

  by rebel8 in

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  bobby henderson of the flying spaghetti monster fame posted this 2 years ago.

  i just came across it while looking for something entirely unrelated to jws.

  he has an interesting take on an encounter with jws.. did you feel the preaching tactic/magazine topics that started out talking about something completely different than religion....were deceptive?.

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  Bobby Henderson truly is a great prophet.

  !RAmen

  p.s. like the link
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  "The dark ages" religious rulership set us back 1,000 years!!

  by Witness 007 in

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  imagine if the witnesses ruled the world!

  something like this happened in the dark ages when science was banned by religion and the inqisition.

  anyone coming up with "crazy" theories like the earth revolves aroung the sun faced death and science stalled for nearly 1,000 years.

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  You want to see what that would like - try Iran
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  Atheists/Theists: What is the best argument FOR theism (a God's existence) you have heard?

  by Spook in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have lived for the last 3 years with two phd philosophers as roomates, both in the last year of their dissertation at reputable institutions (notre dame, penn/uic respectively).

  they are both moderate semi-christian theists after having been fundamentalists as youths.

  i have a sceince and engineering background and am a naturalist atheist former jw.

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  Chalam, I find the definition of faith at Heb 11:1 problematical.

  You acknowledge that your faith is built upon evidence. The Heb definition though says that faith is "being... certain of what we do not see." "Seeing" certainly is a form of evidence. You believe that you "see" God when looking at his creation. If belief or faith is simply a matter of looking at the evidence and reaching the obvious conclusion, then what exactly were the ancients of Heb 11 being praised for? Why are there so many conflicting truth claims of different faiths in the world?

  As a Christian, you believe that the only way to attain salvation is through Christ. Do you understand that all other religions feel that they too have the very same reasons for believing that they do, that their claims are equally valid?

  I understand that you feel that you have strong reasons for believing as you do, and I have no desire to undermine your beliefs. Do you acknowledge, though, that your reasons may not be convincing to other people? Your personal experience may convince you, but carries little weight with me. Speaking in tongues and faith healing may be easily faked and used to relieve the unsuspecting of their cash (I am not saying that is the case in your experience, just that it does happen). The Bible itself does not stand up to close examination. Why choose one book or tradition over another? Muslims believe that the Quran is the innerrant word of God - why not believe them?

  Romans 1 says that the unbeliever is inexcusable, but do you not see that I have evidence to support my beliefs? Is it unreasonable to acknowledge and accept another person's point of view?

  You mention that science changes its views over time (I'm not sure that the flat earth wasn't a religious claim, but it's not important right now). This is one of science's strong points - it is open to correction, and is self correcting. Religion is not open to correction. At times religion has been forced to adjust some of its claims about the world/universe by the forward momentum and increased understanding of the universe brought to us by science.

  There are some spiritual teachings in many religions, but these are almost always lost beneath layers of dogma.
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  Sacrifices ?

  by need2no in

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  i am new here--and am not sure if i have posted this in the right area ?

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  i have often wondered why god need to have sacrifices ?.

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  Gladring

  If you've ever seen a documentary of animal sacrifice in africa or south america...not a pretty sight.

  Restful odor my ass!
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  Atheists/Theists: What is the best argument FOR theism (a God's existence) you have heard?

  by Spook in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have lived for the last 3 years with two phd philosophers as roomates, both in the last year of their dissertation at reputable institutions (notre dame, penn/uic respectively).

  they are both moderate semi-christian theists after having been fundamentalists as youths.

  i have a sceince and engineering background and am a naturalist atheist former jw.

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  knowt to self... ;)