Posts by independent

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WT Study vs Public editions(the new bait & switch?)

by kzjw in

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i grabbed one of the public editions of the wt from the wife's car yesterday.

o noticed there was no mention of the fds, god's org or any of the hardline stances found in the study editions.

no verses frorm matt 24, proverbs 4 or any of the other standard verses found inthe kool-aid versions, but a host of others concerning the holy spirit.... so how is the wtbs still so successful at the age old bait & switch?.

independent_tre

I agree with drew... even though I was raised as a jw, I didnt decide to join until adulthood and even then I only had a foggy idea about some of the more controversial ( basically unscriptural and far out) teachings. I just assumed that because I didn't understand all that crap in the Revelation and Daniel books, that I just needed to 'study more' or graduate to 'solid food'.

The whole thing of having 2 different versions of the same mag, struck me as odd and wrong. If this is the truth, why be so secretive about it? If this is all stuff found in God's word the Bible, why have the stipulation that you cannot even make copies for anyone who's not baptized, even if they are attending the meetings? In my cong, they are very strict about the whole new WT program, and if you don't have a copy, you will just have to sit there with your hands folded, cause you ain't getting one. It made me think the WTS is really trying to hide things from potential converts and critics.

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Hi, I'm new

by Diva in

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hi, this is my first post but ive been lurking around this discussion board for some time now.

my husband (the borg) occasionally posts and i had the pleasure of meeting some great people at the apostofest in covent garden, london last year arranged by bestie and sweetpea , hi to you both and hi to freetothink, mr majestic and everyone that was there hope youre all ok.. my story in a nutshell: raised a jw from birth, my whole family, expect one brother and sister (disfellowshipped) are still jws - basically i was raised in a family who were considered one of the pillars of the congregation, we all pioneered and did the whole witness thing, in fact one of my sisters is a missionary.

my whole jw world crumbled when i learnt about the jw/un connection and from that moment on there was no turning back.

independent_tre

a big ol' WELCOME!!

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Join Me In Welcoming SadFox

by snowbird in

come on, now.. she needs our tlc.. sylvia.

independent_tre

Welcome, I hope we can be a sounding board for your frustrations, and help you through the tough times

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Lurker for a long time, finally decided to take the plunge!

by Momma-Tossed-Me in

i say this because i have been helped so much by the many posts that represent the way i feel about the wtbts.

it is good to know that there are so many people that feel this way.

i am currently inactive and dont comment but do attend meetings for the sake of the family.. my wife is still in and i have a daughter and one on the way.

independent_tre

Hi and Welcome!

Each new poster that takes the plunge brings support & reinforcement to those already here and encouragement to those still lurking...

Thanks, look forward to hearing more from you :)

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What was the most laughable JW teaching??

by chuckyy in

hi all.

in your opinion, what was the silliest , most laughable watchtower teaching/doctrine, since its beginning until now???.

chukyy.

independent_tre

OMG This thread is hilarious...

A good t-shirt slogan:

"The Watchtower Society: none of the inspiration, all of the authority"

I'm buying this shirt !!

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Some pictures...

by amama2six in

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might take me a few tries to get this right but here are some pics of me and the kids.

:d i'll add more over time, i have tons (obviously, with six kids...lol).. .

independent_tre

Very nice pics and Welcome. I grew up in a big family and your children are blessed to have each other. Take care and see you around JWD.

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Just got my copy of "Crisis of Conscience"

by JimmyPage in

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after finishing "combatting cult mind control" i decided to move on to the next logical book.

i've read the first 100 pages of "crisis of conscience" and it's gone by really fast.

now i know why this book is so important.

independent_tre

I'm 3/4 of the way through it and this is the best thing that any jw, fader, or ex-jw can read. I cannot state how insightful this book is and how everyone really needs to understand what goes on behind closed doors and reexamine whether you are serving God or an organization. I just got to the part about the doctrine of Christ not being everyones mediator and am still in shock. His book really touches my heart because it really relies heavily on the scriptures to explain why what jw's practice and teach is NOT scripturally based.

Next I'll read In Search of Christian Freedom or the book about cult mind control since so many recommend this also.

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mediator?

by Momofmany in

last night my mom and i were talking.

she asked me to give her one reason other than the un and 607 why i can't go back to the kh.

i told her, jesus is my mediator.

independent_tre

had to reply to your post as this is the most important false teaching the WT has (in my book).
When I first started on my 'search' I just couldn't believe what I read in the society's mags about Jesus not being my mediator.
After much reading (mainly Paul's letters in NT) I knew something was very wrong. From this teaching it is so easy to see how the teaching of the separation of the 144000 and the other sheep is also a false teaching. Jesus is the mediator for all christians (one sheepfold..christian Jews/christian gentiles ) "Jesus Christ, who died -more than that, who is raised to life- is at the right hand of God and is interceding for us." - Rom 8:34
I was so upset when I realised how I had believed such wrong teaching I was physically ill. The quotes other posters have used are excellent so I don't have to add more.
It still makes me feel very angry.
Suffice to say this is a most important turning point...it leads to a complete turn-around in understanding doctrine.
"Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will in all things grow up into him who is the Head, that is, Christ" Eph.4:15
Perhaps you might like to do what I did...just read Romans..get another Bible translation then read Paul's letters and I think you will find everything starts to make sense, it's like a jigsaw puzzle. Pray for a right understanding. I didn't talk to anybody, just read. It took 6 months to start coming up out of the gloom.

This topic is old, but I felt compelled to post as this is so very new and painful for me. Your post surmises my EXACT feelings about this, from feeling physically ill ( I've even been crying) to reading Romans ( I'm reading it right now in a different Bible translation). I am still in shock and cannot fully express by anger at the WTS for HIDING this crockpot doctrine from so many members.

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