Witnesses are forever condemning others as 'blood guilty' of this or that, when in fact the WTS has its hands covered in blood due to this extrascriptural requirement.
My deepest, wholehearted sympathy to you and your family at this sad time.
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Blood Issue took my mom last night
by rwagoner inafter years of fighting a physical disability that ended in kidney failure and several bouts of respiratory/cardiac arrestmy mom landed in the hospital last week.
the doc's said she needed heart surgery and kidney transplants but before they could operate they need to get her blood count back up.
it had fallen well below what her body could naturally restore on its own she she needed transfusions.
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I Saw My Mother's Time Slip
by StAnn ini took my mother a plate of food today, thanksgiving dinner.
she won't cook it because it's, well, thanksgiving, but she was sitting there waiting for me to bring her a plate of turkey and dressing.
i came in and said, "mom, i brought you some food.
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St Ann, thank you for starting this thread and opening yourself up a bit, even if some criticism was the result. I understand too where you are coming from. When a cult has its grips on your mother until death, you really want to save her and help her out. The damage that has been done by this cult is unbelievable. But threads like these can really help others who are dealing with close family members in, and I can't imagine anyone closer to a person than his/her mother.
I'm sorry to hear about your mom, and it does seem like her time is short. I hope with all my heart that the time you are able to talk to her is beneficial, at least a time for some closure. You deserve this and so does she.
Take care
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They "Keep Following the Lamb" - February Study Article (Praise for the GB)
by Ultimate Reality inthe article is not yet in print, however on jw.org you will find the audio recording for the february 15, 2009 study edition.. this article sums up some of the talks given over the past year or so.
it makes clear that we should trust the faithful and discreet slave because jehovah and jesus trust the "slave".
the slave has been faithfully providing spiritual food for 130 years.
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What is amazing is the role of the slave and GB seems to becoming more important than ever. It is if Jehovah and Jesus have submitted themselves to the Slave!
I was just thinking this! I had a conversation with a hard core Jdub at my job the other day and all she could say was "the slave says this, the slave tells us that, the slave provides us with spiritual direction" and so on. She rarely stated in the conversation that " the bible says this... or the bible says that". She always highlighted the 'slave' as the source of spriritual direction rather than the bible.
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I Saw My Mother's Time Slip
by StAnn ini took my mother a plate of food today, thanksgiving dinner.
she won't cook it because it's, well, thanksgiving, but she was sitting there waiting for me to bring her a plate of turkey and dressing.
i came in and said, "mom, i brought you some food.
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Before I got baptized, I left the JW's and became sort of rebellious as a teenager and young adult. My mom would attempt to counsel me and I wouldn't listen to any of it. To me it was if she wasn't really trying to connect with me at all, or find out how I felt about certain things and her counsel was always full of quoting one scripture or another. For some reason, I never felt connected to her, only judged by her. When I was going through some issues, I always received some stern WT-ish counsel and she always stated why I needed to come back to the 'truth'. I could never put my finger on why my mother and I never seemed to have a close mother-daughter relationship and why I never listened to her 'counsel' or take the letters she wrote me very seriously. ( The letters she wrote always were mailed to me wrapped around a watchtower or awake mag, and full of quoted scriptures).
Looking back, I can probably guess why. Because she was counting time. That was always the end goal. Not to help me through my personal problems ( which I had a lot) or even really listen and open up to me ( she rarely did this, and I know very little about her own personal feelings). It was always preaching - WT style. And I'm quite sure she racked this up with all of her other witness activities, including the letter writing. The whole 'counting time' thing is crazy and I would feel very uncomfortable if she did this now, as I'm trying my best to fade out of this god forsaken religion. Counting time was was of the very first things that struck my as very wrong and unscriptural. Those who are devout live their lives by the JW clock and I don't blame my mom, this is all she has been taught - that this is the only way that shows that you love someone, if you preach to (at) them.
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What is the reason that the WTS uses for not celebrating Thanksgiving
by insearchoftruth inwell i overheard my wife last night on the phone telling someone she does not celebrate thanksgiving, i have asked her in the past why and she gave the stock answer about how holidays are rooted in paganism.
well from what i know, there is nothing pagan about the thanksgiving celebration, what is the official reason that is given for not celebrating this?
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There are a lot of 'friends' on the fence about this one, some will join wordly family for meals, others will condemn those that do. OTOH, I agree that if they're going to ban celebrating every holiday, even those that don't have pagan roots, then why don't they make up some of their own. The bible has many accounts of different celebrations, special days, etc, etc...
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Escape from Jonestown
by truthsetsonefree infyi everyone, cnn is doing a very informative show called escape from jonestown.
it may repeat later.. isaac.
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^^^ That video is going into my favorites... very many similarities to the JW's from the guilt tripping to the us vs. them mentality.
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Escape from Jonestown
by truthsetsonefree infyi everyone, cnn is doing a very informative show called escape from jonestown.
it may repeat later.. isaac.
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I watched when it aired Thursday and was very saddned and depressed after hearing the audio tape of the children crying out in pain as they were being poisoned. And you can hear this sick bastard ( J Jones) telling the crying children to be quiet and die with dignity. I was in disbelief that people can be led so blindly and have their minds controlled so much, that when given instructions to kill their children and babies, they do it willingly. Very scary and very sad.
And while this case was extreme, it provides a wake up call to anyone placing their faith in any human or human organization, willing to die and sacrifice human life at the command of men. The blood issue of JW's reminds me of this.
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How I was appointed C.O.
by BonaFide inif you have never served out of this country or spent any time preaching in another country, you may have certain ideas of how a c.o.
behaves and talks and acts.
what is the youngest c.o.
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Bonafide, thanks for sharing your story. Many of us r&f have no idea of how men are appointed to "take the lead". I always thought it took years of experience as an elder and at least some maturity beyond a twentysomething young man. Your story illustrates how much heirarchy, obedience and organization are really focused on, as opposed to how first century christians worshipped. I know how angry and disappointed I felt learning the truth about the truth, and I had only been in a few years. How did/do you handle it after all those years of service and leadership? How did you come to know this wasn't 'truth'?
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No children until the new system---Has this changed?
by Iwonder17 ini have noticed that the "wait until the new system for children" montra has seemed to go away in the past few years from the wt.
i am thinking that they realized that if the dubs stop having children, then they will stop growing in numbers.
as a result, they have stopped putting in writing that the dubs should wait to have children.
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A married pioneer at our hall recently had a baby, but all throughout her pregnancy, she kept at how unexpected and unplanned the pregnancy was. She was almost apologetic to everyone about getting pregnant. So while I don't think it's in print, I think the pressure or expectation to remain child-free still permeates many congregations.
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Yep, I was a kid and my grandma would take us. I'd always get the chocolate puddings and the half Shastas