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  Telling omission in 29 March WT study. They are taking over God's mind!!

  by hamsterbait in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  para 12:.

  in that same prophecy jehovah told his chosen servant: "i shall safeguard you and give you as a covenant of the people."[...

  that solemn promise provided assurance that god's faithful servant would continue as as a "light of nations," liberating those in darkness.. fair enough your average dub thinks.. but look at paragraph 3;.

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  Kosonen

  Have you read the whole Isaiah 42 and 43? These chapters speak also who blind and deaf (spiritually) God's servant is? But then it does not of course refer on Jesus. But on Israel or the spiritual Israel, those who Jehovah calls his witnesses.

  18 Hear, YOU deaf ones; and look forth to see, YOU blind ones. 19 Who is blind, if not my servant, and who is deaf as my messenger whom I send? Who is blind as the one rewarded, or blind as the servant of Jehovah? 20 It was a case of seeing many things, but you did not keep watching. It was a case of opening the ears, but you did not keep listening. -Isaiah 42:18-20

  8 “Bring forth a people blind though eyes themselves exist, and the ones deaf though they have ears. -Isaiah 43:8

  O Israel. 23 You have not brought me the sheep of your whole burnt offerings, and with your sacrifices you have not glorified me. I have not compelled you to serve me with a gift, nor have I made you weary with frankincense. 24 For me you have bought no [sweet] cane with any money; and with the fat of your sacrifices you have not saturated me. In reality you have compelled me to serve because of your sins; you have made me weary with your errors. -Isaiah 43:22-24

  Sad to point to the facts, but the name Jehovah's witnesses is taken from a bad context. But it also fits them according to the context. How could they take the name Jehovah's witnesses, when it is in a such negative context? Well as Isaiah says, they are blind and deaf, so that should be the explanation.
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  Can someone who speaks French please translate this?

  by Mickey mouse in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this article apparently talks of a court decision recognising the damage that the jw policy of disfellowshipping causes.

  i would appreciate a translation.

  with thanks to so past a dub from jwr for finding it.. .

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  Kosonen

  It is about the first case when a disfellowshiped person won in tribunal against the WT-society. The tribunal regards that the WT-society broke a law against discrimination. The exjw-brother had a confict with some superior in the organization and now as disfelloshiped he can not have contact with his relatives. The decision has been appealed to a higher instance. Then the article adds, that this could open for more similar cases.
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  Governing body member comments about new anointed

  by Kosonen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.jwbrothers.org/play_audio.php?audio=612.

  i listened to the talk of samuel herd, a governing body member.

  he says something like, many new anointed are real trouble-makers in the congregations.

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  Kosonen

  http://www.jwbrothers.org/play_audio.php?audio=612

  I listened to the talk of Samuel Herd, a Governing Body member. He says something like, many new anointed are real trouble-makers in the congregations. He talks about it around the 28:th minute in his speach.

  Interesting what kind of problems they make? Are they trying to give "new light", not waiting for the Governing Body? Or is it something else that causes problems?
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  WTF? Anyone else get this?

  by AWAKE&WATCHING in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  got this in a pm about three days ago so sorry if it's been discussed.

  from: scott williams., .

  country: ivory coast .

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  Kosonen

  I saw a TV-program about how such deceivers work. When they have contacted you and you have agreed to help them transfer money, then suddenly they will announce that there is a problem, and they'll beg, please send us 1000 dollars otherwise we can not transfer the money to you. Then you have lost 1000 dollars. Then again they will ask you again, suddenly a new problem appeared, send us 10 000 dollars and then we will send you the promised amount. And again you have lost your money. It is just fraud! Never reply to such offers!
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  WTF? Anyone else get this?

  by AWAKE&WATCHING in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  got this in a pm about three days ago so sorry if it's been discussed.

  from: scott williams., .

  country: ivory coast .

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  Kosonen

  I have heard similar stories. They try to get your account number, but they would not put their money there, but they try to steal your money from your account.
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  Comments you will NOT hear at the Congregation Bible Study Week Starting March 23

  by LUKEWARM in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  (b) how can we choose associates who will influence us for the good?.

  does god love non jw's?.

  6 jehovah loves those who love jesus, his only-begotten son.

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  Thanks for putting the material here. I agree well with the content in the paragraphs. I'm surprized that it urges to love Jesus. That was long ago I heard something similar in the litterature. But that right. Are they improving? But a little disappointment was of course what paragraph 6 said about how to show our love for Jesus. It stresses really hard the preaching work. But in the last WT-study it was made very clear that we should not concider preaching more important than doing fine works, showing love in helpful deeds within the congregation. But of course the last WT has the "newest light".
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  If You Could & Still Attended, What Suggestions Would You Give The Elders?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what would like to tell the elders that you knew?.

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  I would say them to chose between the Governing Body and the truth in different issues. Infact they are giving more worship, devotion, faithfulness to the Organization and it's Governing Body than Jehovah God. That is what I would like to tell them all.
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  New anointed rejected by the WT-society

  by Kosonen in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  new anointed rejected by the wt-society.

  i listened through the lates download wt, june 15, 2009. www.jw.org there is an article: the faithful steward and its governing body.. this article makes it clear that new anointed will not be consulted in preparing spiritual food.

  other sheep are also told in other words not to listen to the opinion of new anointed in the congregations.. .

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  New anointed rejected by the WT-society

  I listened through the lates download WT, June 15, 2009. www.jw.org There is an article: The Faithful Steward and Its Governing Body.
  This article makes it clear that new anointed will not be consulted in preparing spiritual food. Other sheep are also told in other words not to listen to the opinion of new anointed in the congregations.
  
  I do not doubt that the members of the governing body are anointed. But their behavior has become evil.
  
  I think many Jehovah's witnesses are curios what the new anointed have to say. This article could even more stir up curiosity.
  
  So, what should be done? According to the WT the anointed are suposed to give spiritual food. But the same WT deprives the anointed this obligation.
  Therefore I would like if all rejected anointed gathered together, exchanged thoughts, found a common basis. Arranged meetings to organize future action.
  I would suggest that anointed brothers were grouped together in groupes of maybe 2-5 persons. Then they could offer different congregations to become their elders. That means to take over congregations. By the time these congregations would propably grow spiritually and propably new anointed would appear. When it would be possible, some of these anointed could offer to take over another congregation.
  I believe that when a congregation would be lead by a group of anointed it would be blessed spiritually. And they would grow fast by brothers and sisters who would move to that congregation with anointed elders.
  
  If you know any new anointed in the congregations and have the possibility, please try to get them involved in a such deal. I'm willing to assist as much as I can.
  
  Brother Jan

  My e-mail [email protected]
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  GB Member says....

  by Kosonen in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  samuel herd, a governing body member says in his speach "the miracle of prayer":.

  "god does not answer all prayers.

  prayers for world peace, he does not answer them.".

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  Samuel Herd, a Governing Body member says in his speach "The Miracle of Prayer":

  "God does not answer all prayers. Here are an example or two. Prayers for world peace, he does not answer them."

  http://www.jwforum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=69&t=1704

  (I was there actually and listened to his talk.) But even this statement is wrong, because apostle Paul urged us to pray for peace and said there will be a time when they will say Peace and Security!

  In 1 Timothy 2:1,2 we are urged to pray for peace: I therefore exhort, first of all, that supplications, prayers, intercessions, offerings of thanks, be made concerning all sorts of men, 2 concerning kings and all those who are in high station; in order that we may go on leading a calm and quiet life with full godly devotion and seriousness.

  A similar thought we find in Jeremiah 29:7 7 Also, seek the peace of the city to which I have caused YOU to go into exile, and pray in its behalf to Jehovah, for in its peace there will prove to be peace for YOU yourselves.
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  The Miracle of Prayer - Samuel Herd, Governing Body Member

  by Kosonen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i found his talk at http://www.jwforum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=69&t=1704.

  here is a part of his talk.

  is he indicating that we should pray for gb so that jehovah god would open their eyes?.

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  Kosonen

  How can they claim to be "Faithful and Discret"?