i just saw in the revelation book, that revelation is also not addressed directly to the great crowd.
holy cow!!
is there any scripture at all that the great crowd can claim as its very own??
"The WTS has stated that the NT (Christian Greek Scriptures) was written for the anointed...Revelation is part of the NT." -- Thanks, Blondie. I've read this before, but i think it's still kind of takes me aback when i see it in the publications.
bohm: From Revelation the Grand Climax at Hand: "Primarily, its (the book of Revelation) message is addressed to annointed Christians whom Jesus has bought with his blood to become corulers with him in the new heavens." p. 8
i just saw in the revelation book, that revelation is also not addressed directly to the great crowd.
holy cow!!
is there any scripture at all that the great crowd can claim as its very own??
I just saw in the REvelation book, that Revelation is also not addressed directly to the Great Crowd. HOLY COW!! Is there any Scripture at all that the Great Crowd can claim as its very own??
i am feeling sick after reading the question box - it's so cold and unfeeling toward those who use the telephone to listen to congregation meetings.. .
the wts desire to control their weakest members - the infirm and chronically ill - by guilting them into "putting forth the effort to be personally present " at the kingdom hall is disgusting.. .
they are heartless bastards.... ________________________________________.
Luke: Maybe they don't want opposers/apostates/researchers listening in. Many have observed that things are said verbally at meetings and assemblies that are not put into print.
When i first started researching WT, and reading the pubs, this was one thing that really struck me .The utter hopelessness, guilt and sadness this whole system must induce in people who are already suffering physically and emotionally, and would never be able to even keep up with this scene, let alone get privileges, and respect, etc. Maybe i'm sensitive to this because my husband is disabled, and sometimes cannot even go out or drive for weeks at a time. -- Even if a person has sub-standard energy level, etc, this religion could be devastating, because it's so performance based. If you were disabled, i think it would feel like a parapalegic attending some extreme church that teaches everyone is healed, unless they don't have enough faith!!
is there anything in writing on that?
or is that just something that gets passed around orally?
-- i was about to tell someone about it, but wasn't sure if i could prove it or not.
Thanks, Blondie! I had read that some said they were taught to be wary of used stuff, because it might have demons. BUt i figured that perhaps it was just the view of some, not an official teaching. --- Personally, i LOVE thrift stores! :)
is there anything in writing on that?
or is that just something that gets passed around orally?
-- i was about to tell someone about it, but wasn't sure if i could prove it or not.
Is there anything in writing on that? Or is that just something that gets passed around orally? Thanks. -- I was about to tell someone about it, but wasn't sure if i could prove it or not. THis friend is experiencing a family member converting to JW, and is really hurting. THe JW pressing the person to convert, just gave her a gift certificate to..........the thrift store! We did think it was kind of an odd gift, let alone the demon question. I told her, i guess she wants to make sure this teenager won't miss her Christmas too much!
my wife and i want to start looking afresh at the bible, go back to basics as it were.. what have people here found to be the best approach?.
what translations of the bible would you reccomend (i have the nwt).
what commentaries / texts have people found most useful?.
This site has an incredible amount of resources online, free! www.blueletterbible.com You can look up verses or passages, and click on any version, click on words, then it will tell you about the Hebrew or Greek word, also clickable list of commentaries. (I am partial to the Matthew Henry Commentary.) You can find Vines' Expository Dictionary of New Testament words, Strong's concordance, and even Martin Luther's commentary on Galatians, and more.
cheers, auntbee
i am a baptized witness... i've been around it most of my life.
i've been baptized for a while now.. just as a topic of thought, what do you think is the current state of the society/jehovah's witnesses today?
it seems like we're in the last days.... but then again, the last days have been going on for 60+ years!
Serafin: My heart totally goes out to you on the loss of your child. I also lost a daughter in '08. What was said to you as to the reason why, was UTTERLY And absolutely cruel and outrageous!!
THere is an easy way for anyone to refute the idea bad things happen for punishment to bad people doing bad things, and 'good' people doing 'good' things are spared these things: OPEN YOUR EYES AND LOOK AOUND.
Who do people think they are?? GOD? JEHOVAH? Check out the book of Job, and see that Job is not even told why.
i've just realised i have no idea what i should be serving on 25/12!!.
turkey?
chicken?
I second what Nelly said! Make things that are too difficult to usually make, and too expensive! We sometimes have prime rib like Ada, and we ALWAYS have crab legs, except for one year i think , when the cost was too outrageous, even for Christmas. have fun! CHeers, auntbee
just wondered?.
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or maybe how often should you clean your fridge?.
Since i HATE doing the whole thing, i try to do a few small "areas" each week. HAHA, aren't i such a domestic genius? pfffff.....only took me years to figure that out.... I think it does save work in the long run, as it doesn't get as bad. Good luck!
this is just an obsevation from me...ok i dont mean to annoy anyone but is it true or just me?.
i feel that ones raised in the truth are so much better of than us who came in from the world.
i say that because they have family who are witnesses too.
"Their parents protect them beyond belief,"
I'll have to totally agree with AngelEyes on this one, from the one JW family i've been around for several years. I just found out that one of the sons who is now a freshman at the local University --- his mother went to campus with him on the first day, and stayed all day, to walk him to the various classes.!! i'm sure he's thankful for this fine protection.......My heart goes out to the guy, actually. very sad. I know not all JW moms would do this, but i think the JWism definitely enters into it, and causes a tremendous amount of dysfunctional enmeshment. --- This same mom phoned her other son while she was out of town, while he was watching FIREWORKS with some worldly people, to tell him she was "mad at him." He's nearly 20!
