Ugh, forgot to switch to Google Chrome. -- I just said i've thought about what you said sd-7, about the message being flawed vs the people delivering it being flawed, etc. Wow, i love the way you put that so clearly into words - thanks!
AuntBee
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A thought about the "imperfect men" excuse for false teachings.
by WontLeave inin researching and writing this, a thought occurred to me.... has anyone ever asked this: if the society is "the faithful and discreet slave" of mat 24, they have been given authority over all of christ's belongings (including the people), are spirit-led and god's sole means of communication, and are entrusted with revealing "food at the proper time", why are they held to a lower standard than the "other sheep"?.
if they blatantly violate scripture, if they make false prophecies, if they reverse their decisions repeatedly, if they go way beyond what is written, if they hold a position for years or decades which is obviously and finally admitted to be false, they are given a total pass as "imperfect men" and "not infallible".
meanwhile, if you or i have a belief jws feel is "wrong" - we're not spirit-directed mouthpieces of god - why are we "apostates"?
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A thought about the "imperfect men" excuse for false teachings.
by WontLeave inin researching and writing this, a thought occurred to me.... has anyone ever asked this: if the society is "the faithful and discreet slave" of mat 24, they have been given authority over all of christ's belongings (including the people), are spirit-led and god's sole means of communication, and are entrusted with revealing "food at the proper time", why are they held to a lower standard than the "other sheep"?.
if they blatantly violate scripture, if they make false prophecies, if they reverse their decisions repeatedly, if they go way beyond what is written, if they hold a position for years or decades which is obviously and finally admitted to be false, they are given a total pass as "imperfect men" and "not infallible".
meanwhile, if you or i have a belief jws feel is "wrong" - we're not spirit-directed mouthpieces of god - why are we "apostates"?
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The trouble with Christianity. TRINITY.
by whereami ingotta love pat.. "ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions.
ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity.
it is the mere abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of jesus.
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The trouble with Christianity. TRINITY.
by whereami ingotta love pat.. "ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions.
ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity.
it is the mere abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of jesus.
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please deconstruct John 3:16 - our memorial scripture
by Curtains inour memorial talk focused on john 3.16 - the exercise aspect of exercising faith.
the speaker began by saying 'this evening whilst we are all gathered together many are exercising in the park - they are working hard - jogging and running.
shouldn't we work that hard when we are exercising our faith'.
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AuntBee
Still Thinking, that was great! I'm going to remember this one:
Obviously all these other Bible translations are just being Lazy!!!!
And also what Terry said i thought was so profound. "So, Jehovah's Witnesses have the WORST of those two worlds" YES, i've thought this too. They take grace away completely, the work of Christ FOR us, the promises TO all, etc. -- They say all the "indicatives" dont' apply to you, but pound away on the "imperatives." They take away Gospel, but keep Law. They rob you of promise, but keep the exhortations.
It's ridiculous how they use verses from the Pauline epistles in the publications to exhort the people, but don't you dare claim any of the good stuff unless you're "Annointed"!
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2 JW's at my door today with Memorial Invite, 30 min conversation
by lovelylil inthis brother who is new to the local hall has no clue i am an apostate in the wt's eyes.
he was with a sister who also did not know me.
we had a great conversation for 30 minutes about jesus the 144,000 and the heavenly calling.
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AuntBee
Thanks for sharing this, Lilly. I'm saving this to read over again later. I admire your patience and kindness.
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Am I mistaken or are these stupid mistakes on watchtower.org?
by WontLeave inam i the only one who notices a couple of problems with this?.
first of all, passover is on 15 nisan, not 14.. the sheep should prove to be sound, a male, a year old, for you.
you may pick from the young rams or from the goats.
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AuntBee
The thing that stood out to me as a "mistake" was Luke 22:19, translated as "This MEANS my body." I have never seen that in any translation. Even the NWT almost always translates that word "is" except here, and in the other "Communion" passages. wow. They're putting in their own opinion/commentary/paraphrase into a so called actual translation!!
"Third person singular present indicative of ε?μ? (G1510) " (Strongs)
This is so egregious! Even though there have been reams written about the exact meaning of "is" here, no Protestant scholar would translate that word as "means".
Hey, this solves the whole historical Eucharistic controversy! If i'm ever arguing with a Catholic, i'll just whip out my NWT, and say, look, it means "means" not IS. Problem solved. LOL.
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Found something really cute while cleaning out the garage ...
by troubled mind ingoing through an old filing cabinet i found pages from a diary i must of kept when the kids were little .
the first page was entitled 'funny things the kids say '.
entry from 1985 : ( our son j*** was 4 and his brother t** one .
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AuntBee
That's hilarious TM! My oldest daughter was a thumb-sucker until an "older" age. We were at a park, maybe she was 5 or 6 by then. She was sucking her thumb right there out in the open, and some kid made fun of her for it. She took her thumb out, looked at him, and quipped "It's the first time i ever tried it!"
We used to call my son Eric "handsome" when he was little. He was at the McDonald's playland, around 2 or 3 years old. A kid asked his name, and he said, "handsome." Oh man, we were ROFL!!
Sorry i gave 2, we had a large family. LOL
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No shortage of prophecy
by jean-luc picard init is easy to understand why some could have nagging doubts when seeing world events.. "maybe it is the truth after all?".
i came accross this site http://www.prophecynewswatch.com and realise ( well i knew already) that there is no shortage of prophecy, or prophets.. in 1970, i was just a boy, i remember hearing on the radio.
"by 1978 there will be no water left that is fit enough to drink, but we shouldnt worry because by 1977 the air will no longer support human life".
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Jean-luc: That is VERY interesting how you were exposed to all those doomsday predictions in the seventies - SO WAS I! I've never heard anyone else talk about it. I never thought about it as "prophecy", but i guess it was in a sense.
I picked up the same ideas as you did - very soon there would be no water, too much solid trash to deal with, air pollution, and of course overpopulation, and famine and other disasters because too many people. Oh, and nuclear war, radiation ,etc.
Later as an adult, it hit me like WTH?? What could i do about all that as a kid? And did they ever stop to think about the effects of that on kids who would take it seriously, without any counter-balancing information, thinking skills, etc.??!!! Some that already had a tendency to depression could have become suicidal.
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the one day convention less than 10 hours ago
by TheLoveDoctor inbeen baptised for 15 years and it still same crap.
my wife who takes notes and thinks she pays attention when the brother says jesus is our meadiator and doesn't pay attention that the watchtower just stated he is the mediator for the anointed.
oooooooohhhhhhhhhhhh thats right we do benifit but rank an file dont catch the confusing statements.
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AuntBee
LOL Wobble. The Scripture you cited and your reasoning will clearly be appreciated by all sincere Christians! Your post must commend itself to every sanctified conscience! But those not walking in the light won't get your post at all, because they don't understand the ongoing nature of knowledge and might be left in darkness. Even though not a former JW, i can certainly benefit from your post by extension.