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  Bye Bye Van Jones.

  by AK - Jeff in

  1. social
  2. current

  http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090906/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_adviser_resigns_9.

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  No, only common sense and logic.

  Was that how the buildings fell, all 3 of them?
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  Poll: Who Left Whilst Still Believing?

  by brinjen in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is for an upcoming youtube project.

  i would love to do this on a mass scale... think there might be something "big" in the results.. 1. were you a born-in (including those who's parents converted while they were still children) or did you convert as an adult?.

  2. when you left, did you still (a) fully believe in the truthtm, (b) partially believe or (c) realise it was all a load of crap?.

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  1. Were you a born-in (including those who's parents converted while they were still children) or did you convert as an adult?

  Born-in.

  2. When you left, did you still (a) fully believe in the truth TM , (b) partially believe or (c) realise it was all a load of crap?

  (c) realise it was all a load of crap but with some lingering angst. Angst all gone now.

  3. Now, do you still (a) fully believe in the truth TM , (b) partially believe or (c) realise it is all a load of crap?

  (c) realise it is all a load of crap

  4. When you left, how afraid where you of armageddon TM ?

  Not at all.

  5. Do you class yourself now as (a) christian (b) agnostic (c) atheist or (d) other (please state).

  Evangelical, born again Christian, but I've rejected any fundy beliefs and actively pursue the knowledge of how to understand and interpret the Bible according the genre of the book in question (the Bible is a collection of 66 individual books covering a variety of genres, so it's important to identify what genre the book you're reading is and interpret it accordingly. "Understanding the Bible" by John Stott is highly recommended to anyone who is interested in getting a handle on the Bible).
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  Critical Times hard to deal with.....

  by acolytes in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  do you fear the jehovers witnesses and the organisation ?.

  how is the watchtower still harassing you ?.

  i must sat i certainly applied the scripture on" critical times hard to deal with" towards the society and its members when i left.. acolytes.

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  You didn't ask a silly question.

  I don't fear the Watch Tower Society, but I don't like the continuing dark influence they have on the hearts and minds of my former friends and my closest family members. I do fear what the Governing Body is able to compel these ones to do in the "name of Jehovah".

  Welcome to the forum.
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  Jehovahs Witnesses: the only organization preaching the good news

  by JWMediaFilms in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  click on the video.... it's uploaded in high def.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hisblir_2sw.

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  Luke 10:7 Stay in that house, eating and drinking whatever they give you, for the worker deserves his wages. Do not move around from house to house.
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  How much will Watchtower publish online?

  by jonathanconway in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i've noticed that they have a small selection of articles online.. however the majority of their stuff is only accessible through either the watchtower cdrom or dead trees.. has anyone yet asked them about putting their entire library online?.

  if their aim is to "spead the good news", then what possible reason could there be for not making the content publicly accessible?.

  since they already have it in electronic form (i believe the content is already in html format on the cd), the cost of doing this would be minimal, and it would probably make their website rank better in google.. of course, the flip-side is that this would allow others to link to their content and discuss it openly and, anonymously, which might expose them to much more criticism than they've ever experienced before.. but i'm wondering what their excuse would be if someone asked them "why not"?.

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  Jonathan raises an excellent point.

  What's the return of investment the WTS is getting these days, I wonder? The cost of publishing the publications on dead trees, then shipping them around the world versus what they take in via donations...Hmm... The cost of servers and bandwidth is coming down all the time, surely the fine privilege of Brother Reachingout downloading the publications via the 'net, printing them at home/photocopying them at the Kingdom Hall for the delectation of the R&F would save the Corporation serious $$$
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  Really, There Is A Lot To Learn About Your Faith

  by AllTimeJeff in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in ak - jeffs thread "did jesus ever claim to be the messiah", narkissos said the following that i think, and have learned, is rather profound:.

  a better approach to this discussion might start with questioning the presupposition that there was one concept of "messiahship" common to all or even most 1st-century ad jews.. the idea is, we assume that the faith and religion we have now, is as it was way back then... clearly, it isn't.. i haven't devoted a great deal of my time to this subject, but i have read enough to realize that there is a lot more to the history of our churches and religions then we think.

  jw history is pretty easy, as they started in the late 19th century.

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  I find it really interesting that Christianity, 2000 years into its existence, is still under such scrutiny, criticism and conjecture. Shouldn't it have died out long ago?
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  Bye Bye Van Jones.

  by AK - Jeff in

  1. social
  2. current

  http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090906/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_adviser_resigns_9.

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  Is it Federal law that a person must believe the findings of the 9/11 investigation?
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  MY LYING MOTHER IN LAW

  by iknowall558 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is not a thread to gain sympathy.

  my life has changed dramatically over the weekend.

  my husband (hoboken) has just left me and my two boys.. i'm not going to divulge all the details, but needless to say things are very tough emotionally for all of us.

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  Paul Barrie is a lovely soul, isn't he? I bet he had some talk or item at this weekend's Circuit Assembly. I told Hobo Ken that his brother testifying against him at his JC would significantly raise his stock and profile within the Organisation. He has, afterall, got to protect his own spiritual career and that will always come before family, even his 11 and 7 year old nephews. But at least he's concerned about their eternal salvation and surely only wants to see them on the narrow path leading to life via the Watch Tower Society, it's "faithful slave" and it's Governing Body.

  Lovely people. True Christians.
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  What is the JW story on baptisim?

  by Out at Last! in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  they claim that all of their beliefs and actions are based on the scriptures, so how can they justify 9,10 year olds, or even early teens getting baptized?

  jesus was 29, john the baptist was the same age or a year older.

  all of the others i recall from the ot & nt were adults.

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  They absolutely want to get them while they're young. They say it's a loving provision, but it's a control technique. At a CO visit a year or two back, the Organisation let it be know that they think young men - as in mid-teens, so boys, really - should be encouraged to 'reach out' and have 'responsibilities'. The reason given was that it 'locks them into' the congregation.
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  Ministerial servant mentions more "empty nester" JW couples getting divorced

  by truthseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was talking to a ministerial servant today, and the subject of marriage came up.

  he said something very interesting, that recently many of the friends he grew up with in the truth (he is in his 30s) are on their second or third marriage.. he also talked about a more recent phenomenon that more empty nester jws (couples whose kids have left home), are deciding they don't want to stay together and are getting divorced.. we're talking about couples who have been married 20, 25, 30 or more years suddenly deciding to call it quits and it's not necessarily that they are looking for someone else; they simply want out of the marriage.. divorce does seem to be on the increase in congregations, especially the last one i attended.. it reminds me of a scripture in malachi we would sometimes hear about "not divorcing the wife of your youth".

  why do you think divorce and separation are on the rise among long time married jws?.

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  I've noticed that it just takes one couple in a congregation to separate for the 'flood gates' to open and several others to follow suit, almost as if it was a game of chicken to see who could stay in their rotten marriage the longest.