Posts by lostsheep82

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Wanting to talk to my mom

by lostsheep82 in

so now that i've read as much as i could in the last 2 months and made my decision that this isn't the organization i thought it was, i'm scared, terrified, and feel helpless in some ways.

my mom is a devout jw, a pioneer, her husband of the 'anointed', and they are very 'spiritually strong'.

i'm wanting to compile a mini book to send to her with all the reasons and proof from wt books and magazines with quotes and stuff.

Wanting to talk to my mom

by lostsheep82 in

so now that i've read as much as i could in the last 2 months and made my decision that this isn't the organization i thought it was, i'm scared, terrified, and feel helpless in some ways.

my mom is a devout jw, a pioneer, her husband of the 'anointed', and they are very 'spiritually strong'.

i'm wanting to compile a mini book to send to her with all the reasons and proof from wt books and magazines with quotes and stuff.

lostsheep82

Thank you all for your suggestions. I will read that book, but im not even done COC yet. Still gathering evidence and figuring things out myself....but I will read it.

This has got to be the hardest and scariest thing in my life. I just want to explode and tell her everything but maybe that isnt a good idea....

anyways, you all have been helpful. thank you. your comments show that there are people out there who know what i am going through and care...feels nice.

thanks and blessings to you all:)

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Wanting to talk to my mom

by lostsheep82 in

so now that i've read as much as i could in the last 2 months and made my decision that this isn't the organization i thought it was, i'm scared, terrified, and feel helpless in some ways.

my mom is a devout jw, a pioneer, her husband of the 'anointed', and they are very 'spiritually strong'.

i'm wanting to compile a mini book to send to her with all the reasons and proof from wt books and magazines with quotes and stuff.

lostsheep82

Thank you all for your suggestions. I will read that book, but im not even done COC yet. Still gathering evidence and figuring things out myself....but I will read it.

This has got to be the hardest and scariest thing in my life. I just want to explode and tell her everything but maybe that isnt a good idea....

anyways, you all have been helpful. thank you. your comments show that there are people out there who know what i am going through and care...feels nice.

thanks and blessings to you all:)

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Rank & File Unfamiliar with WTS former NGO Status?

by megs in

so, my pioneer lady sent me an e-mail with the following sentence:.

you had asked about the un.

we have never belonged to that organization and never will.

Honestly the R&F don't know about it. My mom reg pioneer, my step dad "anointed" and he spoke wtih an elder in his hall and no one ever heard about it, so of course it was just apostate stuff I was looking at that blew everything out of proportion...lmao. She said she needs proof. And proof I will give them. They defended the WT to a tee. The info I send them will involve alot more than the UN scandal

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Wanting to talk to my mom

by lostsheep82 in

so now that i've read as much as i could in the last 2 months and made my decision that this isn't the organization i thought it was, i'm scared, terrified, and feel helpless in some ways.

my mom is a devout jw, a pioneer, her husband of the 'anointed', and they are very 'spiritually strong'.

i'm wanting to compile a mini book to send to her with all the reasons and proof from wt books and magazines with quotes and stuff.

lostsheep82

Fading isn't an option for me, as I've been 'out' for approx 5 years, however still beleived it was the truth and she always hoped I would 'come back'. If you read some of my posts, you will know my story a bit.... http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/9/160504/1.ashx . 2nd page I posted.

I left the 'truth' for many reasons, but not due to thinking it was all bullshit. Now I do, and I think there is no right religion cause its all man made, and filled with man made interpretations and rules. I need to explain to my mom that I'm not returning NOT because I'm gay, NOT because I want to be rebelious and turn away from God, but because I don't beleive in so many things they teach, and I cannot preach or go door to door with a right conscience. Going in service is something you HAVE to do as a witness, and I wont/cant do that anymore.....

I almost wished I was still in good standing when finding these things out and I'd have more of an option, but my mom feels that because I don't have Jehovah's "spirit" on me, cause I'm not going to meetings, that Satan and the demons have taken over my heart, and I've turned away from Jehovah. Her words to me hurt very much as I'm discusting, and I've pierced her heart. To hear things like that from your mother who is suppose to love you unconditionally hurts real bad. I told her that I would have NEVER stopped talking to, or seeing her if she ever got DF'd, because I don't think and never have thought that it would help people return. It makes people return simply because they are cast out, and abandoned. Loving councel and constant encouragment, would help people, but NEVER talking or looking at a person...yeah that's loving. They base things one ONE scripture that says not to eat with such a man, well I wont eat with you, but can I still be your daughter????

The sad thing is, I understand where she is coming from and why she thinks and feels the way she does, cause I use to feel the SAME way up untill May/08. My world turned upside down when I decided to Dig deeper, and found JWD. I use to be so afraid of 'apotates', and now I'm labeled as one.

I feel I guess that a mini letter/book is the only way I can express things, and show quotes and proof to my reasonings. Her husband is of the 'anointed' and talking to him on the phone just confuses me mroe cause they don't listen to ME, jsut expect me to listen to them....I dont want to be preached to anymore. I know what the bible says and I feel every religion, every interpretation of the bible is just that. An interpretation of the original writings, cause each translator I feel adds tid bits here and there where they feel should.....

I'm still so lost and confused with this whole thing, but one thing is for sure, I cannot be a witness. I cannot go door to door. I cannot pretend to beleive something I dont. I think the JW's generally try, however, simply follow men in NY. Men they know nothing about, men they trust to rule their lives, and I don't feel that is right....I use to.

No matter what proof I show her, she will just shun me, and that will be the end of our relationship which breaks my friggen heart. Is there anyone who was able to make things good with family even after they were out of the religion? I'm not DF'd.....DA'd, I simply walked out of a meeting and went to 2 memorials after that. I'm innactive and want to stay that way.

Gosh I miss my mommy. I pray for understanding on her part, but I'm so scared....

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Wanting to talk to my mom

by lostsheep82 in

so now that i've read as much as i could in the last 2 months and made my decision that this isn't the organization i thought it was, i'm scared, terrified, and feel helpless in some ways.

my mom is a devout jw, a pioneer, her husband of the 'anointed', and they are very 'spiritually strong'.

i'm wanting to compile a mini book to send to her with all the reasons and proof from wt books and magazines with quotes and stuff.

lostsheep82

I read your post Thomas. Brave and I hope my ending is decent and civil. I just want them to understand that from suposed 'truths and words from God' that came to be untrue, false, and deceiving that I cannot follow or beleive what the WT writes or says. I still beleive in God, just want to be civil and be able to talk to them. She is soooooo devout!

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Wanting to talk to my mom

by lostsheep82 in

so now that i've read as much as i could in the last 2 months and made my decision that this isn't the organization i thought it was, i'm scared, terrified, and feel helpless in some ways.

my mom is a devout jw, a pioneer, her husband of the 'anointed', and they are very 'spiritually strong'.

i'm wanting to compile a mini book to send to her with all the reasons and proof from wt books and magazines with quotes and stuff.

lostsheep82

So now that I've read as much as I could in the last 2 months and made my decision that this isn't the organization I thought it was, I'm scared, terrified, and feel helpless in some ways. My mom is a devout JW, a pioneer, her husband of the 'anointed', and they are VERY 'spiritually strong'. I'm wanting to compile a mini book to send to her with all the reasons and proof from WT books and magazines with quotes and stuff. At that time I'm going to tell her how much I love her and in conclusion that I don't want to be a JW anymore.

Is there any suggestions, particular articles, or things I should be careful of when writing to her? This is going to be a book I tell ya, but my point of doing it is so that she at least UNDERSTANDS where I'm coming from and why I dont want to anymore. Do you think it will work? I know she wont leave, but I want her to at least talk to me, and I'm assuming this letter will be an automatic DA. I have an aunt and uncle as well that I want to send the same copy to....do you think this is a good idea?

Anyone have luck with confronting JW relatives on this?
I'm so lost finding out all this, but my mom means the world to me, and she is a mess that I'm probably not coming back. (I've hinted that I dont beleive it anymore) and she just says its a shame I let Satan in my heart....
Any suggestions?

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My lesbian neighbors are driving me nuts!

by dawg in

ok my gay friends, i'm going to pick on you a minute, but you know i love you all... .

me... liberal male, could care less what you do with your sex organs, i only care about what i do with mine...that said, i've several gay friends... none of which are monogamous.

so, my next door neighbors are lesbians, neither are the hate all males types like some i have known in the past... matter of fact, one loves sports and hangs out here watching football and other sports with me at least once a week.

lostsheep82

Speaking from a lesbian myself....I'd confront the cheater and give her an ultimatum. She either tells or you say something. Really it isn't any of your business, but it makes no difference gay or straight, cheating is cheating. No matter what it hurts. I have had many friends cheat of friends...must be a lesbian thing...but I would always tell the one being cheated on, because in my 'straight' relationship I was cheated on and it isn't fun...I'd rather know and move on... Doesn't really sound like they are in love anyway, or "meant to be". Good luck:)

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Talk by brother Herd (long)

by moomanchu in

the stars fall from heaven?

~sigh~ and youll fall across the finish line into the new world!

we dont want that brothers.

lostsheep82

OMG!!! I have this CD of the whole talk sitting in my bedroom. Before when I needed encouragement I'd listen to this 'powerful' talk. I've listened to it like 10 times I swear. This thread was interesting to find....

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1908 Sign of Jesus Presence?????

by lostsheep82 in

jw
friends

i came across this video on youtube.

i've never heard of this, and if it is suposedly jesus sign, don't you think russel, and such would have noted it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7jeprptdpo.

lostsheep82

This is the second part.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7hV-5nKR_w

I agree with you tho he doesn't at all prove ANYTHING regarding 1914. However if you google Tunguska 1908 you will find alot of interesting takes. Some eyewitnesses say they saw a body decend from heaven. I don't beleive that! But it's interesting anyways. IF that was Jesus, I think he would have made his presence known worldwide don't you think, for Everyone to see??

This is the Wikipedia site describing some of it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunguska_event