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  People who make the truth EXCITING!

  by slimboyfat in

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  2. friends

  i have been fading for years now and attend meetings very rarely these days.

  but something happened recently to make me think about going regularly again.

  a couple have returned to my congregation who used to be special pioneers here twenty years ago.

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  LockedChaos

  Personally, I'm in agreement with much of what is being said
  in this thread.
  With that being said, you must be true to yourself.
  If your EDUCATED conscience tells you that the things that
  you have learned regarding the "Society" are true and
  in fact you have been subjected to control and manipulation
  you owe it to yourself to not be taken in by emotion and catch phrases.
  Those you speak of are probably very sincere.
  Everything taught by JW's is not necessarily a lie. That does not grant
  them the right to use know techniques for control.
  You do not need an organization in order to be a Christian,
  if in fact that is what you wish.
  Dazzle them with BRILLIANCE or BAFFLE them with BU**SH**. Playing
  with emotions, no matter the cause, is wrong in my book!!
  Use that brain of yours for some rational thinking.
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  Are you now involved in a different religion or structured group?

  by feenx in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was browsing another post where wtwizard implied membership in another group, and was asked what it was.

  that got me thinking...since coming out the society, has anyone embraced another organized religion or group, public or secret?

  if so, what is it, and what made you join and continue membership?

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  LockedChaos

  I have experienced only two states of existence.
  
  In the first state I was a born-in JW immersed so
  deep in that I did not even recognize any other way.
  I learned everything I could, followed all the rules and regs,
  and expected all others around me to do the same.
  What can I say. That's what I was taught and I learned it well.
  I was in that world for 25 years.
  The first state began to end with the shock and reality that
  when I entered the Kingdom Hall panic attacks struck. I was 14
  years old. I would go into mental shutdown and again the panic attacks
  when I attempted Field Service. I had Temp Pioneered and was a regular
  publisher always!! I was 16 years old. I quickly found out that I
  knew NOTHING about living a meaningful and productive life.
  I married young (to someone years younger than I) and that lasted 18 months.
  I was treated without compassion or kindness by "The Elders".
  As a matter of fact it was downright evil the way I was treated.
  I was publically reprimanded (humiliated). I began the fade.
  
  So began the second state. This state required that I relearn everything.
  I had to dismiss all my previous spiritual upbringing and begin again.
  I made a lot of mistakes and I did a lot of this correctly as well.
  I studied philosophy and gravitated to "Objectivity" . Anything that taught
  objective and rational thinking was good for me. It made me the perfect
  Capitalist and businessman. I succeeded beyond what I imagined possible.
  This state had lasted 25 years.
  
  I have stood before the door of the third state for the past couple of years.
  I have recently concluded that if I am to go through that door, it requires
  that I re-invigorate my spiritual nature. I've done a lot of reading, joined this forum, and am about ready to make my move.
  More to come.
  
  Sorry for the long reply.
  It just struck me that I should.
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  Did anyone get told that they 'think about things too much'?

  by jambon1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in the very early days of my explaining to certain witnesses my doubts, i kind of ran through all of them.

  they probobly merged into one big hodge-podge of apostate doubting nonsense.

  - the nephilim penis size, the animals in the ark, the she bears killing the kids, davids baby being killed by god for his adultery, jesus sacrifice not really being a sacrifice, the torture of jw's in the camps, appointment of elders, the changing doctrines.........but more than a few elders/rank & file witnesses told me that i "think about stuff too much".

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  LockedChaos

  I was told that as a youngster ALL the time.
  I never was a very good drone.
  
  I haven't been told that for a very long time.
  
  Uh..Thanks for the reminder.
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  Dinner guest- When you bring wine shouldn't they offer you some?

  by Witness 007 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've gone to many a witness dinner where i would bring one or two nice wines, hoping we would have some with dinner.

  {to numb the boring conversations} only, to find the couple say "thanks" put it in the cabnet....and serve up lemonade..... and it's not an alcohol thing....two different brothers brought out there own "home made" vino instead, which taste like a mixture of fruit punch and vineger!

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  LockedChaos

  Yep, that's just plain rude.
  I'm a very outspoken person (at times) and I
  would have told them to bring out the wine I brought.
  
  They are probably the kind that would bring out the stems, seeds, and leaves
  and keep the bud for themselves.
  
  HeHeHe
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  Ex-JWs off the Radar?

  by sweet pea in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this week i was contacted by an old friend of mine who was recently disfellowshipped.

  i encouraged her to check out jwd for support, advice and friendship.

  she had a brief look but said it wasn't really for her, she would rather just "move on and have fun!".

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  LockedChaos

  I was out for 25 and never gave much thought to anything JW.
  As a matter of fact, I would go out of my way to avoid any
  contact whatsoever.
  
  I've been an active internet user since the old "Mosaic" days.
  That's when access was expensive and very geeky. Al Gore hadn't
  "invented" it yet. LOL
  
  Never did any research with regards to Witnesses or any type of religion.
  Didn't even care about any of the why's.
  
  That changed when I finally convinced my father (a long time JW) that the
  internet was safe and he didn't have to look at porn.
  He asked me one day if I had ever Googled Jehovahs Witnesses.
  My answer was "No I haven't" and I couldn't think of a reason why.
  
  So I did. That was only a few weeks ago. I read Ray Franz's two books
  and have ordered some additional information. My eyes were finally opened
  after all these years.
  
  It's all due to my dad. I'm sure if he knew it was he that opened
  the floodgate of real truth (apostate) to me he would freak!!!
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  !!!Now I have really seen it all... Watchtower Jewelry!!!!

  by Princess Daisy Boo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  sitting at home on a friday night - browsing through all the jw groups on facebook and this catches my eye.... we help support our full-time ministry with this website.

  please have a look at the "watchtower" -style pins and pendants.

  with a link to this website http://jeffreydesign.com/index.php?main_page=index&cpath=7 aside from the fact that it really ain't pretty, how pukeworthy is this??

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  LockedChaos

  What horrible looking stuff!!
  It looks like some sort of goth, devils court kind of crap.
  
  Did you notice the prices??
  On the opening page the regular jewlrey was $15 - $25 dollar
  stuff and not so hideous.
  
  The WT stuff was in the $100 + range.
  
  Yeah!! Lets rip off the brothers and sisters.
  It's for a good cause they'll pay anything.
  
  Yikes!! Besides, the society will probably want a cut, say 45%??
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  embarrassed about having been a witness?

  by purplesofa in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  last weekend witnesses came to where i work....i work at a barbque restuarant (hey it's fun!

  ) i recognized two elders before they came in and freaked!!!!!.

  the elder obnoxious was at the register and i was sure he did not recognize me.

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  LockedChaos

  Great comment "Journey on".
  As a born-in I have now been out as long as I was in.
  It is who I am and helped to make me what I am today.
  
  Embarrassed about it, yep. When I was a kid it was constant.
  I was the only JW in grade school, the only one that I
  knew of in Junior high, and only one of maybe 3 in high
  school. It was tough.
  
  When I finally faded after 26 years and a failed marriage,
  I refused to even acknowledge that it even ever happened.
  
  I've just recently faced it square in the face and have
  been purging it out ever since. It get better once you
  begin to reconcile it with yourself.
  
  This board has helped a great deal in that process.
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  Does the JW mindset ever leave totaley leave you ?????

  by karter in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was 38 years in left 7 years i find myself still in the mindset sometimes maybe becouse wife and some family are still in but can you ever fully ''check out and leave"

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  LockedChaos

  I was born in for 27 years.
  Been out for 25 years.
  It's all still there and sometimes it
  comes crashing back, usually when least
  expected.
  
  When I began reading "Crisis of Conscience" out
  of nowhere my brain began chanting "You
  shouldn't read this, you shouldn't read this!!
  Apostate, Apostate!!
  
  Just kept moving forward and it soon turned
  to a murmur the completely left.
  
  Weird Huh.
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  loan fraud

  by wha happened? in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i am a broker.

  i really do take care of my clients.

  recently, a "brother" told me he finances hard money loans.

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  LockedChaos

  As a professional you probably have a license involved.
  According to many finance related license you have a duty to
  report any illegal activities you run across.
  Do not compromise your profession because some loan shark
  happens to be a JW.
  Illegal is illegal.
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  Scotch or

  by The Oracle in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  beer?.

  coke or pepsi ?.

  brunettes or redheads ?.

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  LockedChaos

  Scotch
  Coke
  Red Heads
  Florida
  
  
  Strange though -
  
  Rarely drink booze
  Usually drink Ginger Ale
  Wife is a brunette
  Have a condo in South Carolina
  
  Life is full of contradictions