ex-jw also complain about theocratic warfare.
they say jw lie to carry out war against satan and his system.
jw never lie.
:I honestly think you should shut the fuck up, you worthless piece of shit.:
"Let a rotten saying not proceed out of your mouth, but whatever saying is good for building up as the need may be, that it may impart what is favorable to the hearers."
Ephesians 4:29
i was born in to your so-called visible earthly organization.
you taught me well; with the intimate details in the machinery you call the society.
you assumed that your strict exercises would suppress my ability to achieve a free mind.
:Your current cover-up mired in your Theocratic Warfare double-speak involving issues of pedophilia? Exposed. Your “clean organization”? Tarnished. Your power over millions? Eradicated. The very vultures YOU created will pick your naked shell of a corpse that once was called The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society apart. The time for self-glory is at an end, not by prophesies, but by your OWN hand. By your OWN words.:
Boy are you gullible. From a sociological aspect--the wts or the governing body of jw will not fall. Study the sociology of religion and see for self. Read Plato Republic. You wrong.
But we also have God on our side. Brother Paul say that if God uper hmwn--then tis kath hmwn.
Opposers will go down.
ex-jw also complain about theocratic warfare.
they say jw lie to carry out war against satan and his system.
jw never lie.
Ex-jw also complain about theocratic warfare. They say jw lie to carry out war against satan and his system. jw never lie. use subterfuge, be inventive, be creative or subtle, yes. we never lie doh.
but the ex-jw are not bove lying. we sometimes have ex-jw email us saying they still jw. they pretend to be brother who have doubt. they really are lying. this makes us wonder whether ex-jw think anything go in apostate warfare? is it ok to lie, cheat, steal and kill in your warfare? what is your ethical system?
as i sit back and watch the pedophilia scandal unfold, it occurs to me that someone connected to the watchtower got it right - they prophesied what we are seeing.
my friend jim penton in "apocalypse delayed" wrote about the impact of "brain drain" on the organization.
no organization can afford to continually lose its brightest members, yet that is exactly what the wts has done for years.. what is the price of this constant "dumbing down"?
:As I sit back and watch the pedophilia scandel {sic} unfold it occurs to me that someone connected to the Watchtower got it right - they {sic} prophesied what we are seeing. Who? My friend Jim Penton in "Apocalypse Delayed" wrote about the impact of "Brain Drain" {sic}
on the organization. No organization can afford to continually lose {sic} its brightest members, yet that is exactly what the WTS has done for years.:
With the looks of your spelling and grammar in this place, it looks like you are not including yourself amongst the "brightest members" that thw wt lost.
let me see if i got this right.. if a brother sees some leg or cleavage, then this will stumble him and he will commit a sex crime and it is not his fault because he was stumbled.
it was the sister's fault.
does this same logic apply to children i.e., the child was cute, so it was their fault?.
bible say it work both way. men are tempted by women and women by men. but person should only have sex with his wife or her husband. you know what mean.
let me see if i got this right.. if a brother sees some leg or cleavage, then this will stumble him and he will commit a sex crime and it is not his fault because he was stumbled.
it was the sister's fault.
does this same logic apply to children i.e., the child was cute, so it was their fault?.
More hot air from academics, we see. larc set up false problem to try trap jw from logical point of view. He again wrong. sex crime wrong. the person who commit sex crime is one blame. but do this mean women should flash legs and cleverge? no it do not.
if a man flash money from wallet on street and he show plenty of rubles, then he attacked, the robber who atack him wrong. but man should not be showing ruble. it lead to attack.
same way, it sex crimer's fault for sex crime. whether woman show cleverge or not. but if she show flesh--it speak ill her. make her look like fornicatrix.
i wonder how the average iq of most jw's would measure up to the average iq of non-witnesses?.
i think that they would rate less than most.
i say this because, having met up with a few still-witnesses recently, they just don't seem to be too prolific in the brain cell department.
:When people try to elevate themselves, they usually attempt it at the expense of others.
It's all a facade.:
You speak truthh, radar. Engrish try elevate himself. Bad Engrish.
engrish has thrown down the gauntlet by insulting my people about iq.
besides fact that iq bogus, engrish overlook nother fact.. what is intelligence?
what is knowledge?
:But it would have been nice to have had the chance to study for one.
JW's simply don't have that choice!:
We know jw with degree. society not against degree. they say just do not forget God when you study it. They also know about the iq fiction of modernity.
:However, I can't agree with you on JWs being the only ones with a high spiritual IQ and the only ones with "ultimate truth". I have met many many non-JW Christians who have a very close personal relationship with god and who are very fulfilled. Truth is all a matter of perception. My viewpoint on certain matters may not be like yours, due to our upbringing being different, our environment being different, personality differences and our experiences being different.:
We respectfully disagree. Truth not a matter of perception. Truth is ontotheological--not epistemological. Truth is not transcendental, subjective or dependent on human noos. If there were no rational perceiving cognizers on planet, there would still truth. Augustine wrote that truth is God and God ius truth. We know him, baby.
Mystic love.
engrish has thrown down the gauntlet by insulting my people about iq.
besides fact that iq bogus, engrish overlook nother fact.. what is intelligence?
what is knowledge?
Dutch:
:You may truly believe that you have spiritual knowledge that you are defending your faith, but the faith that you have has no substance, it hinges on empty promises of everlasting life proffered to you and "your people" in the hope that you will spend time and money making converts in order for those converts to do the same thing.:
Promises of eternal life not empty. Have you read bible? Titus 1:2 say God promised everlasting life. Brother Paul also tell me in Titus 1:2 that God cannot lie. Who should I believe? You or brother Paul and God?
engrish has thrown down the gauntlet by insulting my people about iq.
besides fact that iq bogus, engrish overlook nother fact.. what is intelligence?
what is knowledge?
Brother happy:
:i am an ongoing JW, but something is trubbeling mee, we read in the bookstudie, abaout the slav and that he was telling us that crist take the power in heaven 1914,and they talk a lot of diffrent profethis 1918, 1919.
But when i read inn old books as i have, written inn 1920 centuri, they say the last days start 1799, and jesus come to hevaen 1874.
I dont find this understanding as we now have before 1942, and then in begginingof 1950 it was more clearly understood,BUT WHY IS GOV BODY TELLING US THINGS WHO DONT IS THE WHOLE TRUTH, very confusing.:
Read proverbs 4:18, brother. I, as a sister, should not teach you. but just read proverbs and think about how early people of God came to right understanding after many years. My Engrish is limited. I trust you know what i say doh. ask elders about this too.
