Oh, those tender moments
that we hung our dreams upon,
Were we ever really children,
are we now so far beyond?
D.O'Keefe - from 'American Roulette' - 'Just Jones'
HS
i've narrowed it down to three choices:.
bonnie raitt singing..... "that summer night in texas, baby.
too hot and wet to sleep.
Oh, those tender moments
that we hung our dreams upon,
Were we ever really children,
are we now so far beyond?
D.O'Keefe - from 'American Roulette' - 'Just Jones'
HS
home page url:.
http://www.jwrelief.org/hrc/mainpage/home.htm.
this website was evidently set up to milk all the pr the wts can get for doing what they should be doing anyway (except not letting the right hand know what the left hand is doing.).
Actually, perhaps it should be FAAQ, as in 'Frequently asked allowable questions'.
HS
i'm sure you all have some good comical stories of pple farting during prayer or other quiet times during meeting.
as a personal experience of mine, the night before i had eaten a frozen pizza, doritos, and some old chocolate milk.
this combination produced the worst smelling brew i have ever had.
lol - Fart Hall speaks again.
Sorry Fred - hard to resist that one!
HS
with no encouragement from others?
what cognitive tools do you use to keep yourselves from going under?
what strategy implementation do you employ to stay as positive as possible?
Celtic,
How do I stay positive?
By recognizing that there is a big world out there of which the WTS plays a very small and very insignificant part.
That one good piece of music is more valuable to the soul than 100 meetings and that one fine piece of art can feed the heart for ever.
That life is made up of moments and that compassion and kindness overwhelm issues and causes and fights.
That though the WTS has tried to take all the spontaneity and mystery out of life, they have failed. Life is an exciting and very mysterious journey along which we can to a large degree manipulate our own destiny.
Trying to stay enthusiastic by remembering that you cannot build a paradise, or a future, on flat champagne.
Just a few random thoughts.
Best regards - HS
i'm sure you all have some good comical stories of pple farting during prayer or other quiet times during meeting.
as a personal experience of mine, the night before i had eaten a frozen pizza, doritos, and some old chocolate milk.
this combination produced the worst smelling brew i have ever had.
Imagine this. An International Assembly of JW’s, West Coast, 1974. The Assembly that Fred Franz spoke for 1.5 hours shredding, as only he could, the beauty of Psalm 119.
As a JW, I invited along to an afternoon session a huge African-American electric/string bass layer of some repute. A massive Shakespearean character, with a legendary eccentricity and a messianic belief in himself. If Othello lived in Detroit, this was he. He played in the big league but never quite made it, due I think to his insistence on taking his three live in girlfriends on tour.
Here was a man who insisted that keeping foul air within the body would eventually lead to its demise due to internal poison. This was of course just a minor foible, I will not describe what substance he used to brush his teeth.
Anyway, he sat quietly at the session for a while and then slowly, deliberately and with controlled volume allowed his ‘foul air’ to escape. This was followed by his immediately leaping up in front of everybody, beads jangling, to turn around and light a match close to where he had be sitting.
The JW’s around us sat with eyes firmly fixed ahead, though of course they missed nothing; while I pretended that he was not with me and just reddened with embarrassment. Five times this happened before an attendant leaned over saying, ‘Please could you stop doing that - it is a fire hazard’. My friend ever ready to charm, replied in a booming voice and with his celebrated wit, probably heard by the Franz himself; ‘Hey Man, not half as hazardous as my farts’.
HS
....i decided to make a stand.
i went into the kitchen, picked up a large carving knife, and walked out into the front garden...... .
my intention was to cut back the growth from the previous spring's daffodils, but there was a little part of me that was hoping to put the wind up 'em, if only for a fleeting second before they realised that i was just cutting back flower growth.
E'Man,
LOL - Wonderful stuff, thanks.
She was sitting in my home, drinking my tea, she was smiling (quite flirtatiously, I thought) at me.Surprisingly enough, whenever I stagger home from the pub it always seems to me that women smile at me flirtatiously'.
Of course, it could be that they are looking at the two blokes carrying me home.
HS
have you worn a suit since you left the org of jehovahs witnesses?.
i havent.
what am i going to do with all my shirts ties and suits ?
I always thought this would be a good subject for a DA letter.
Dear Brothers,
I have decided to disassociate myself from the Congregation Of Jehovahs Witnesses as my tailor informs me my suits would last much longer if I did not wear them so often.
Yours etc.etc.
HS
european jw versus usa jw.
this board is very dominant by experience from us about the jw lives.
we are only a few from others parts of the world participate.
Abbadon,
Well, I know of one guy in the UK who had to shave his beard to become an Elder, but that was more a nazi CO (anyone remember Doug Maltby, I think that was his name? What a dick!) than UK Dubness.
Lol. Yes, that would be Tom Maltby, rotund Yorkshireman with an unfailing belief that when Christ said he would send a 'helper' for his disciples, he actually meant him.
I think it was he who originally made the statement, to be imagined in heavy Yorkshire brogue, 'Brothers, ( long pause ), if you can't serve God out of love, serve him out of ( long pause ) FEAR', heavy emphasis on last word.
Best regards - HS
Lee,
Unfortunately a sickening reflection of my own many years spent battling against the flow of a morass of uneducated and self-serving opinion.
Like, yourself, I have met many, many elders who are sincere, kind and noble in their desires and they try their frustrated best against the odds. Many burn out. Some as they get older, lose the will to fight and aquiese to the bull-headed, some fade away and wither. One thing is certain, only the thick-headed survive intact.
Having been on the receiving end of a so called apology from a CO at one time, my experience is that it was rather like being kissed full on the lips by a long-dead halibut. A moment I could well have lived without.
Keep up the good work - HS
european jw versus usa jw.
this board is very dominant by experience from us about the jw lives.
we are only a few from others parts of the world participate.
Beroea,
I think the South of Europe is a lot more conservative than the Northern part - where I live. It’s mainly down to the cultural fact that the northern part of Europe is dominant by the protestant way of thinking. The south is catholic and dominates of more conservatism but that will change in the near future.
A good post Mountain Man and a very astute observation. I have had opportunity of the past three decades to compare European/US attitudes and agree that there is often a vast difference in the way 'theocracy' is applied.
Just a very small example, but one of the most irritating:
Sweden has elders with beards, as do Holland, Ireland, the UK, Canada, New Zealand, many African lands, France etc. I have heard of very few, if any elders in the US who carry beards, and would be interested if any posters know of any.
When a MS Training school photograph was published in the WT a few years ago, a Swedish JW was apparently shown with a beard in the Swedish edition, but this was retouched to make him beardless for the rest of the world!
Remember the Russian soldiers who were made to spray the leaves of the trees a brighter shade of green than the natural shade for their propaganda films!
HS