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I visited Yosemite in the late 90's with some JWs living in Fresno. The natural beauty there is breath-taking.
my wife, the hungarian goddess, and i just returned from a wonderful one week vacation in yosemite!
i've been many times as a child and young adult, but haven't been for 17 years or so.
it was the hungarian's first time.
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I visited Yosemite in the late 90's with some JWs living in Fresno. The natural beauty there is breath-taking.
well this afternoon as i sit here i am calm but my heart is literally aching.
i am sitting here with my young daughter on my shoulder.
i guess you could say i spilled the beans to my wife this afternoon.
Her reaction is what I would call normal, based upon what I've read here for more than four years.
She has been trained from infancy on how to react when Satan attacks her family, which is how she sees it.
Give her some time, and unless you want to be DF'd, don't say another word to anyone, and be prepared to lie.
i always had my doubts about that but i was at least hopeful that all would work out as they said.
i saw so many "faithful ones" who were true believers expire before they got the prize, that i started to think it probably wouldn't happen in my lifetime.. what a bunch of suckers, huh?.
On occasion, yes. Generally, however, I never felt "good" enough to survive.
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should i help my wife get the kids ready for meetings, service and assemblies?
According to JW theology, you're the head of the household. You can insist that she not take your children to the Kingdom Hall.
However, since you're allowing them to go to the Hall, helping her with the kids would be the polite thing to do.
...sucks.
(warning: this could get lengthy but i have to vent and i could really use some advice).
i know ttatt and have known about it for almost 2 years, yet i'm still stuck inside.
Leaving is not easy, but I'm confident that one year after your exit you'll view it as the best thing you ever did.
So long as the roof over your head is being provided by JWs, you'll want to dance to their tune, however.
They will shun you. This includes close family. Even worse, they will feel as though you have attacked them. They will even blame you for the discomfort of the family separation, saying it's all your fault. They may love you, but they don't love you more than they love Jehovah.
It's a cult.
psacramento: i hope you're doing well.
we miss you.. .
i realize that you have better things to do, but i just wanted to give you a jwn shout out..
Hello!
I thought of you just the other day.
Someone was recommending a book by Ehrman, and I thought to myself, "PSac would have a thing or two to see about that!"
because i was raised a witness, i don't think i was "uncomfortable" knocking on strangers' doors.
(weirdo).. but as i got older, i simply didn't want to bother anyone so i was at there door for no more than 30 seconds.
at the end i hated being there..
minimus: Thankfully, I wasn't any good at it. I enjoyed it, but I never even had a 'progressive' Bible Study. Each door was like a little surprise party, and God was on my side. Now, obviously, the very thought of it is repulsive. As a true believer, however, when I was in the ministry, I felt like it was exactly where Jehovah wanted me to be at that very moment.
of all the lies espoused by the wtbts, perhaps the most seductive, most cruel and downright evil, is to tell grieving people that their loved ones will be resurrected, and will rejoin them in a paradise earth, forever and ever.
of course, the easiest lie to be accepted is one that people want to believe.. but taking someone when they are at their weakest, their most vulnerable, and offering such a false hope is far more cruel than anything contained even in account of the first sin, with the serpent tempting eve with the forbidden fruit.
that was simply the serpent mucking up the divine plan by appealing to her ego: no harm, no foul.
There must be MANY of you who have experienced delayed grief after you "awoke", realizing that you hadn't grieved losses experienced in the past, since you fully expected to see the person again in the New System? The late-onset realization that they ARE really gone?
Yes, I had to grapple with my mortality after giving up belief in life after death. I was unpersuaded by the available evidence and remain such today. It was a little umcomfortable at first, but ultimately it's one of those things that I cannot change, so I shouldn't spend too much time dwelling on it. It also made what life I have left so much more meaningful. Plus, when I contemplated what slim odds there were of me being born to begin with, I felt lucky to have been born. I operate under the assumption that death will be as inconvenient as not having been born yet.
The JW theology offers an infinitely more peaceful doctrine about death, when compared to the flames of literal Hell.
because i was raised a witness, i don't think i was "uncomfortable" knocking on strangers' doors.
(weirdo).. but as i got older, i simply didn't want to bother anyone so i was at there door for no more than 30 seconds.
at the end i hated being there..
Yes, I was very comfortable with it. I'm an extrovert, and I believed that I was saving them from a burning house.