Please read Steve Hassan's first book, "Combatting Cult Mind Control" at your earliest convenience.
leavingwt
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I didn't take your advice and this is the result...
by MsGrowingGirl20 inrecently i told you all that i wanted to e-mail two friends some of the things i was struggling with in an effort to help them wake up or at least for them to understand me...97% of you all told me that it was a bad idea.
i still decided to do it.
so i e-mailed her sincerely asking questions on five points---1) health care flip flops 2) false prophecies 3) mediatorship of jesus 4) un 5)1918.. she replied about 8 hours after.
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Thinking of becoming a JW.
by Kate82 inhi,.
i am new to here so please be bear with me.. i have always believed in god, but was never baptised, my parents wanted me to make up my own mind religon wise.. i am thinking of becoming a jw and am just needing some advice on how to do this, bible study and jw beliefs.
also do jw say grace and how.. i am greatful of any help.. thanks.
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leavingwt
Kate: You cannot become a JW until *after* you complete a six-month Bible Study, for one hour each week.
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Thinking of becoming a JW.
by Kate82 inhi,.
i am new to here so please be bear with me.. i have always believed in god, but was never baptised, my parents wanted me to make up my own mind religon wise.. i am thinking of becoming a jw and am just needing some advice on how to do this, bible study and jw beliefs.
also do jw say grace and how.. i am greatful of any help.. thanks.
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leavingwt
Kate82: Are you having a regular Bible Study with Jehovah's Witnesses?
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Non-JW family members who are overly RESPECTFUL and PROTECTIVE of the JW's.
by nicolaou inin my immediate family only my dad was never a jw.
my brother was the first to leave when he was 15, i left some twenty years later.
my mum always was and still is the hardcore jw 'hub' of the family and she also brought in her sister and nephew.. now here's the thing.
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leavingwt
Nic: These outsiders are incapable of understanding Thought Reform, and the complex dynamics within high-controls groups *unless* they undertake a lenghty, exhaustive research project into the subject. Bottom line: they make sorry allies in attempting to rescue someone from such a group.
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Argument against a GLOBAL Flood
by enigma1863 inhow many people existed before the biblical flood?
in the bible from adam to noah they have around 1600-1700 years.
adam had at least three children (one dies and not counting the daughters) in a 930 year life span.
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leavingwt
Jehovah loves to watch animals die painful deaths.
Ever watched the Nature programs on TV?
The planet is a non-stop arms race between predator and prey.
By flooding the whole planet, he created a huge disturbance in the Force, with millions of mammals crying out.
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How many of you have lost your faith on JWN
by Most Noble injust curious, if anyone had lost faith whilst on jwn and do u think it is an honorable experience?..
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leavingwt
Christ Alone: I would prefer to think of myself as predestined to Hell. God made Hell, somebody has to go there. "Sounds legit."
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How many of you have lost your faith on JWN
by Most Noble injust curious, if anyone had lost faith whilst on jwn and do u think it is an honorable experience?..
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leavingwt
I was a member here at the time I discovered that my faith was based upon ignorance, lies, misinformation, wishful thinking, and an absence of critical thinking skills.
At first, it was a little unsettling. Within a few short months, it was as if a huge weight had been lifted from my shoulders. My life took on a greater meaning.
As Ingersoll put it:
When I became convinced that the Universe is natural -- that all the ghosts and gods are myths, there entered into my brain, into my soul, into every drop of my blood, the sense, the feeling, the joy of freedom. The walls of my prison crumbled and fell, the dungeon was flooded with light and all the bolts, and bars, and manacles became dust. I was no longer a servant, a serf or a slave. There was for me no master in all the wide world -- not even in infinite space. I was free -- free to think, to express my thoughts -- free to live to my own ideal -- free to live for myself and those I loved -- free to use all my faculties, all my senses -- free to spread imagination's wings -- free to investigate, to guess and dream and hope -- free to judge and determine for myself -- free to reject all ignorant and cruel creeds, all the "inspired" books that savages have produced, and all the barbarous legends of the past -- free from popes and priests -- free from all the "called" and "set apart" -- free from sanctified mistakes and holy lies -- free from the fear of eternal pain -- free from the winged monsters of the night -- free from devils, ghosts and gods. For the first time I was free. There were no prohibited places in all the realms of thought -- no air, no space, where fancy could not spread her painted wings -- no chains for my limbs -- no lashes for my back -- no fires for my flesh -- no master's frown or threat -- no following another's steps -- no need to bow, or cringe, or crawl, or utter lying words. I was free. I stood erect and fearlessly, joyously, faced all worlds.
And then my heart was filled with gratitude, with thankfulness, and went out in love to all the heroes, the thinkers who gave their lives for the liberty of hand and brain -- for the freedom of labor and thought -- to those who fell on the fierce fields of war, to those who died in dungeons bound with chains -- to those who proudly mounted scaffold's stairs -- to those whose bones were crushed, whose flesh was scarred and torn -- to those by fire consumed -- to all the wise, the good, the brave of every land, whose thoughts and deeds have given freedom to the sons of men. And then I vowed to grasp the torch that they had held, and hold it high, that light might conquer darkness still.
Let us be true to ourselves -- true to the facts we know, and let us, above all things, preserve the veracity of our souls.
If there be gods we cannot help them, but we can assist our fellow-men. We cannot love the inconceivable, but we can love wife and child and friend.
We can be as honest as we are ignorant. If we are, when asked what is beyond the horizon of the known, we must say that we do not know. We can tell the truth, and we can enjoy the blessed freedom that the brave have won. We can destroy the monsters of superstition, the hissing snakes of ignorance and fear. We can drive from our minds the frightful things that tear and wound with beak and fang. We can civilize our fellow-men. We can fill our lives with generous deeds, with loving words, with art and song, and all the ecstasies of love. We can flood our years with sunshine -- with the divine climate of kindness, and we can drain to the last drop the golden cup of joy.
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How Many Hours Did You Spend Going to the Meetings and Ministry?
by God_Delusion ini spent far too many.
in fact, i recently created a spreadsheet and documented how many hours i spent in total per week.
it's so depressing.
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leavingwt
rip van winkle: You have a PM.
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Ok I have never been prouder of my wife!
by darth frosty infunny convo my wife had, an old friend called who connected with her on fb.
i was messing around in the kitchen when i hear my wife say jovially but forcefully "oh i dont go anymore cause my husband says its a cult!!!'.
seams she was on the phone with a fence sitter she grew up with but that statement was amazing lol.
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How Many Hours Did You Spend Going to the Meetings and Ministry?
by God_Delusion ini spent far too many.
in fact, i recently created a spreadsheet and documented how many hours i spent in total per week.
it's so depressing.
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leavingwt
For my entire 23 years, I was a "low-hour" publisher.
Post-Bethel, I rarely got more than two hours in any given month. I sometimes turned in 15 minutes.