Posts by leavingwt

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What exactly was the proper food at the proper time?

by Hoping4Change in

forgetting (and forgiving for the sake of discussion) all of the changes, mistakes and errors between the teachings from the late 1800's to 1920 by the bible students, what exactly was the "proper food" being dispensed during the "proper time" when jesus supposedly made his choice of this group of people to be the sole harbringers of truth?

i am assuming all of those changes/mistakes/errors, of course were not proper food, so what were the things being taught during jesus's selection that led him to select the bible students?

is there anything truly unique (and correct/accurate/proper) that can be claimed by the bible students during that time period that could warrant jesus' choice?.

leavingwt

Is there anything truly unique

I have seen zero evidence that what they were teaching was unique. Nor have I seen any evidence that they've ever attempted to determine what the thousands of other Christian religions in North America were teaching when Jesus "made his selection". How would they even know if one of these churches was teaching the same unique things?

Cults ALL claim to be the one true faith, and to have a direct connection to God. If you and I were to start our own church/religion, and teach exactly what the WT teaches, we would be considered a false religion. Why? Because we are not members of their cult. So, in reality, what DO the teachings have to do with reality? Nothing.

Not to mention that the entire "food" thing seems to revolve around a rhetorical question, within a parable, as written in Matthew.

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Maybe the funniest movie I have ever seen

by Gregor in

recently out in dvd, "death at a funeral".

leavingwt

My wife tells me the same thing. Haven't seen it yet. I'll put it in my queue. Thanks for the heads-up.

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Michael Crichton dead of cancer at 66

by Gregor in

wow!

i didn't know he was sick either.

i have read many of his books and always loved the amount of research he put into them.

leavingwt

His book, Jurassic Park, is excellent.

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Can you successfully debate with a Jehovah's Witness?

by digderidoo in

jw
friends

the answer is no way if they are very diehard jws.

leavingwt

Unfortunately, unless they WANT to leave the organization, you're not actually having a debate. They already have a CONCLUSION. Namely, that they are right and you are wrong.

It's all about the Trump Card -- The Faithful and Discreet Slave. If the Slave says it, it's RIGHT, no matter what the facts are.

You may stop talking to them at any time. No need to feel as though you have lost. The Internet will preserve your conversation for more reasonable/open minds to digest.

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Obama Wins

by drew sagan in

jw
friends

they threw the kitchen sink at this guy and he still came through victorious.

i'm most curious at where the republican party goes from here.

it will be interesting.

leavingwt

Here is the Conservative reaction:

http://chizumatic.mee.nu/not_the_end_of_the_world

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Nov 5 Dr. Phil - Cult Mind Control - WATCH TONIGHT!

by still_in74 in

jw
friends

wednesday - november 5, 2008mind control?its hard to believe, but in america alone, there may be as many as 5,000 religious groups preying upon the weak and vulnerable, and all in the name of god.

dr. phils guests have warnings for you and your children.

seeta says when her 18-year-old daughter joined a religious group called 1 mind ministries, she left home with her 7-month-old son and never returned.

leavingwt

I asked a questioned on Jesus and steve hassan any takers?

I've read Steve's first book. There was no mention of Jesus using Mind Control tactics on his followers.

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Nov 5 Dr. Phil - Cult Mind Control - WATCH TONIGHT!

by still_in74 in

jw
friends

wednesday - november 5, 2008mind control?its hard to believe, but in america alone, there may be as many as 5,000 religious groups preying upon the weak and vulnerable, and all in the name of god.

dr. phils guests have warnings for you and your children.

seeta says when her 18-year-old daughter joined a religious group called 1 mind ministries, she left home with her 7-month-old son and never returned.

leavingwt

It never ceases to amaze me that there are persons among us that don't consider Jehovah's Witnesses to be a DESTRUCTIVE cult.

Moreover, Steve Hassan and others have detailed how Mind Control works, working from Robert J. Lifton's excellent research.

You can lead a horse to the water, but you cannot make him drink.

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Make Your Prediction:The Next President---- McCain or Obama???

by minimus in

jw
friends

tuesday night, it will be 100% obama.. who do you think??

?.

leavingwt

It's awesome that a self-made person, not from Old Money, the son of an immigrant, can be elected Leader of the Free World, under our system. I sure wish his grandmother could have lived to see him win and give his acceptance speech.

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