Posts by leavingwt

"the end" was supposed to come actually in 1799, i believe and the same core group still maintain it'll be here.. are jehovah's witnesses that "dumb"?

leavingwt

Yes, they control the HISTORY, by re-writing it. If you do not believe this, ask a JW in his or her 20's about the 1975 debacle, and they likely won't even know what you're talking about.

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TO CLARIFY A COUPLE OF THINGS ABOUT MY PROJECT.....

by Mary in

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friends

first of all, i want to thank everyone for all the words of encouragment and compliments i've received regarding the project i put together.

not only will it (hopefully) help some family members to see that something's not right regarding many of the wt's doctrines, but it was therapeutic for me to do as well.

like many other ex-witnesses, i was emotionally devastated and extremely angry when i discovered that this religion was not "the truth" as was drilled into our brains from day one.

leavingwt

Please put it on the web. One of the apostates that I shared it with was wowed by it! He loved how it covers many of the main points that are contained elsewhere in various formats.

Once it's on the web, Google will index it, making is accesible to many more people that are not a part of the ex-JW community yet.

-LWT

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How Can A Religion That Predicts "The End" Every Few Yrs. Maintain Members?

by minimus in

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friends

if your religion cried wolf every new generation and they've been doing that since the 19th century!!!!

!, how could you possibly believe anything that's said?.

"the end" was supposed to come actually in 1799, i believe and the same core group still maintain it'll be here.. are jehovah's witnesses that "dumb"?

leavingwt

Minimus, I believe you are correct with JWs. They never say that God changed his mind. They say that the brothers didn't understand the Scriptures or the light has gotten brighter.

Some of the other cults use the "God changed his mind" tactic. There was a UFO cult that used that type of reasoning.

Bottom line: There is always an excuse to legitimize their failures -- in their minds.

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My marriage is falling apart!

by sacolton in

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friends

over breakfast, my wife and i discussed the feeling of distance between us.

i haven't kept her for going to meetings or anything of the sort.

yet, since i've left the organization - she has been more distant from me.

How Can A Religion That Predicts "The End" Every Few Yrs. Maintain Members?

by minimus in

jw
friends

if your religion cried wolf every new generation and they've been doing that since the 19th century!!!!

!, how could you possibly believe anything that's said?.

"the end" was supposed to come actually in 1799, i believe and the same core group still maintain it'll be here.. are jehovah's witnesses that "dumb"?

The simple answer is Mind Control. The printed material has very little to do with reality. Cult members seek approval from God through their association with other cult members. When a cult prophecy fails, this simply means that God changed his mind. Guess what? The only people that know that God changed his mind are the cult members. Therefore, even failed prophecies BOOST their faith.

Carl Sagan commented on this subject of "maintaining members", despite prophetic failures.

http://corior.blogspot.com/2006/02/carl-sagans-remarks-about-jehovahs.html

Also, have you seen this Strong City Cult documentary from National Geographic? It's worth the 50 minutes.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6509120662881681478

-LWT

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BLOOD FRACTIONS - what if all JWs knew they are a Matter of Conscience???

by insearchoftruth in

if each and every jw were to accept fractions as a matter of conscience, how many of the senseless deaths could be prevented.. .

i have no idea on what is normally given to a person in a transfusion, but from some of the reading i have done, whole blood transfusions, which are strictly forbidden, are very rare.

really how dangerous is the current blood policy...if all jehovahs witnesses were made aware of what is actually allowed and accepted the fractions allowed?

leavingwt

I once read somewhere (perhaps, here) that one of the main purposes of the HLCs is to convince sick JWs to take "acceptable" fractions, so as to avoid death and thereby prevent negative publicity for Watchtower.

Frankly, however, many JWs are scared of any decision labeled as a "conscience matter", because their view of God is one of a tyrant, watching every move you make, to see if you'll screw up. Therefore, they consider rejecting ALL blood products the only safe route.

In other words, in their minds, a list of acceptable fractions doesn't really exist. Rather, what they believe is there is a list of fractions that the Society is NOT SURE about. The next logical step in this chain of thought is as follows: "If the Society cannot categorically tell me that hemoglobin (or another acceptable fraction) is OK with God, I'll steer clear of it, even if it means I may die. At least I'll get resurrected into a Paradise."

It's quite disgusting.

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Adele

by leavingwt in

i was recently introduced to a new british musician, adele.

i really like her new album, "19".

this is a live performance of her single, chasing pavements.

leavingwt

purps is a fan! yeah!