when some one is df'd, they are held to be df'd.
in every congregation in the world.
a record is sent.
metatron,
Every new case sets new legal precedent, according to my attorney. He is ready to find one in my favor if I need to. I'm ready to pay as well.
Only if the locals go on the offensive, which they are inclined to do, will an attorney be used in my case. The WT should just leave people alone if they no longer want to hear their spew.
HCM
i have just tv-watched two very famous and very rich fleshly sisters, venus and serena williams, play out the final of the 2001 us open tennis championship for women.. venus, the older girl, won the match as expected after two regulation, rather ho hum sets of 'grand slam' tennis.
(maybe their dad had already done a deal with them on who was going to be the winner today.
) anyway, the big new york crowd seemed to get their money's worth, more maybe from the novelty value of sibling rivalry rather than high standard court play.
Uncanny'
I have doubts they are JW's it seems to far fetched. Can it be confirmed? Have I missed something? Or is the trend of leaving high profile witnesses alone widening?
HCM
i had a victim call me after they had called bethel this morning.
they were informed bethe was offically closed till 1:30 pm for a special meeting with the bethel family.
would anyone care to speculate or verify the purpose of the meeting?
Hello All,
About two years or so now the WT has been encouraging congregations to borrow money from them or to refinance with them at a new lower interest rate. There are many stipulations that benefit the WT such as: all the ownership paperwork naming the owners of the building defaults back to the WT, any organizational claims all default back to the WT, ex. corporate or religious association formations of entities to operate in their state are worded to default back to the WT.
HCM
my father was rushed by ambulance from his rest home to st. marks hospital in salt lake city, utah friday, but i only just heard about it.
i received a call from the floor nurse and she told me he is not expected to live.
his lungs are filled fill up with fluid and are continuing to fill u with more fluid: he has pneumonia.
Farkel;
Sorry to here this about your father.
I'm sure it's no surprise to you that the majority of JW's react the same.
> "I asked my mother if she had notified anyone in the congregation and she said she called the PO yesterday. No one from her congregation has called or stopped by. Mom and Dad have known many of these people for over fifty years. "<
Typical reaction if your not in a current prominent position. The family dog would have more of a reaction to the loss than most programed dubs. Farkel, they just can't see it.
> "My worst nightmares about dub selfishness and lack of compassion are now confirmed. I suspect many of them will non-chalantly say, "Oh, but he'll face the prospect of resurrection into a Paradise earth." That's bullshit comfort for my mother right now because she's a wreck." <
That's right , and all in the name of the WT God the GB.
Again, sorry to here about your troubles.
HCM
confidential letter from the watchtower bible & tract society .
this letter was sent to "all bodies of elders in the united states" juli 1.
1989. i guess many will find the content extremely interesting!.
Kent;
They look good!
HCM
i was just wondering you know whether in bethel workers get credited with whats called in britian national insurance.. in britian you carnt miss six years of payment and expect a full goverment pension which isn't much anyway.also you cant claim full income support , sickness benifit or job seekers allowence if you have missed or underpaid you ni.. this came to mind as my wife worked for a company that didn't pay contributions for her .. when latter on she lost her job the goverment wouldn't pay her any job seekers allowance as no ni contributions were credited for that year.. so does bethel pay ni contributions for bethelites and circuit overseers and the like.
How about health insurance for Bethelites? If they leave their given an exit physical exam what happens if a grave illness is found and they wait to tell you only after your insurance has expired? Now that would save them some money wouldn't it.
It happens folks.
HCM
any one on this db knows if i should use a temporary restraining order or a personal protection order.
i can't remember the difference between them.
if anybody has any information please let know as soon as possible.
Exodus;
I can't say I know the difference but what would it accomplish? Some satisfaction maybe because restraining orders all run out at some point. They will just leave you alone for that period of time and it will not stop them from df'ing you or anyone else.
Many compose beautifully written letters to try and postpone an announcement and threaten legal action. If legal action is brought up by all means pursue it but don't bluff as some do. The goons will call your bluff, remember they are bullies and they think they speak for god.
If all threatened legal action was followed through a cascade effect would begin. There are only so many WT lawyer freebie goons to go around and just leaving someone alone to save money would be a way for them to start thinking differently. They have enough problems with new pervert cases cropping up all over the world to keep them busy. Timing is important also as the more actions against them at once the more difficult it will be for them.
I for one would love to see this evil practicing organization stop and think of the real damage they are causing in peoples lives.
HCM
well the elders do not accept me.
i do not fit the mold and nor will i change too.
they asked for a book for me to see the questions answered for baptisim but they wouldn't give it to me because they have to decide if i can join???
Tattoogirl;
It seems you are at the stage where you are about to become an "unbaptized publisher".
What that means is you go out in the field service (door to door) as a "representative of Jehovah God" with your study conductor, now doesn't that seem like a lofty position? I'm sorry to tell you that your tattoos, body piercings and pink hair are considered substandard to the WT way of life. Most elders I served with would never allow you door to door in that state, hence no organization book and no questions. To bad for you, they are the final decision, no recourse, no questioning their decision, no anything until you fit their mold to a tee. Mind, heart, soul, body, every fiber of your existence must be turned over to them.
Now be a good little Tattoogirl and run like hell, away from them. Please?
HCM
the october 1 watchtower 2001 features articles on training children "properly" and dealing with a "prodigal child.
the latest inside u.s. figures reveal that 86% of jw children leave the fold, with some 29% who eventually come back for reasons of family ties, most never "reaching out.
" that means over half leave permanently.
Maximus;
Without question kids are leaving, no their gone, and most not to return. That's a good thing. Remember back in the 70's young boys fought for the front row like a donkey after the carrot for any piece of the cookie crumb that broke off from the big wig on stage. It only took a few decades for them to realize the real truth. The front rows are empty. All young ones are leaving in droves and there is no replacements for the old cronies to be the next generation of company men.
Must be a sign of the end ? The end of the WT as we know it.
HCM
i thought it might be interesting to see how many here remember where and when they were baptised into the borg.
for some the memory may be too painful, but i'm curious.. me.
it was 1966 in vancouver, bc.
Oh no! with a couple of mentions about Natick Massachesetts it brings back all the bad memories. In 1975 I was dunked like a lemming. Wish I could go back and undo it.
HCM
