HoChiMin

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  Who Was Shocked By the Watchtower UN NGO Scandal?

  by AlanF in

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  i'd like to get comments from people about whether and how much they were shocked, surprised, or otherwise bothered by the watchtower society's becoming an associated non-governmental organization (ngo).. note that i'd like to see these comments because they might lead to some interesting publicity, so please comment accordingly.. alanf

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  HoChiMin

  I was happy to see more evidence against a corrupt organization.

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  Can You See Thru A Phoney Poster?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  are you able to tell the real from the phonies?

  i see some posters that automatically raise suspicions because of how they state things.

  others, after reading what they have to say over a period of time, show their true colors.

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  I know of some that dog the Watchtower here but will go to meetings and pretend to be one of the loving "friends". There are others that clearly exaggerate who they are, pretending to be beautiful, curvaceous or studly----when in reality----they're not......Can you spot phonies??

  Why that would be unethical minimus, to misrepresent oneself on the Internet.

  Do you actually think some posters here would do such a thing? Oh my! What has the world come to when you can't believe all people say? Especially the "curvaceous" part, I think one would pretend to look like a beautiful country singer when in reality is a very homely woman.

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  How many of the public go to the Public Talk?

  by truthseeker in

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  if you're still going to meetings, how many of the public actually go to the public talk?

  or do you see the same old tired worn faces?.

  in my hall, you never see a member of the public just come in and say, i'd like to stay and hear this talk.. was there ever a time when complete strangers would just come in, sit down and actually listen?.

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  "Public Talk"? What a title for a charade of lies. The WT hates the "Public" they want all robotic uniform characters parading around "saying" they like the public and totting "See! We love the Public why we even have a Public Talk" it's all phony superficial bullshit.

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  WTS wealth/assets how to be shared?

  by greendawn in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  imagine a situation were the jw org is burst assunder with all the rank and file members leaving and then entering into a legal dispute with the wts over the assets issue: they want to claim most of it because they are the ones that really made it with their unpaid work and conributions in money or property.

  they want to have the wts and all its daughter corporations.

  on the other hand the wts the shareholders, the directors, will claim that the assets legally belong to them, they can boast of a legally protected ownership over them, they are registered in their name and they should keep everything.

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  HoChiMin

  It would be nice to see that happen but doubtfully will in our lifetime. I do think someone (corp. officer) would have a great wealthy life if it ever does.

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  Al Capone vs. Judge Rutherford

  by Farkel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith alone...for as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also" - james 2: 24, 26

  al capone vs. judge rutherford

  al capone gained his power by exploiting the weaknesses of people.. judge rutherford gained his power by exploiting the weaknesses of people.

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  This is a thread that makes one think in parallels, comparing lives of two different men. I in no way thought of the men as equals morally or spiritually because of what was written here. One man would kill you quickly if you crossed him the other man would kill you mentally if you crossed him. When you consider the devotion given to Rutherford (yes devotion) in the name of the WT god, cast out adherents are as dead to other members and to themselves in most cases.

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  do i have any rights?

  by zaphod in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i sent a letter to the elders before i got df'd and i would like it back.

  i was not of sound mind (in my opinion) when i wrote it and foolishly disclosed stuff that i would rather was not in their hands.

  does anyone know if i can get it back?

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  HoChiMin

  If it's damaging to the WT your safe, if it's damaging to only you? Well I'm sorry to hear that.

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  How many Bible studies does it take before brainwashing sets in?

  by hubert in

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  i would like to know how the study starts...... what kind of information is given to the potential new convert when he / she starts studying with j.w.

  's., lesson to lesson.. what is taught in the first few "lessons".. when the brainwashing starts to be taught.

  how many lessons it takes to convince the student that the w.t.

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  I remember during the early/first study sessions emphasis was placed on opposition that I would face because "you are learning the truth". This coupled with stressing their version of bible prophecy made it seem to fall into place and, I thought, they could be correct. The rest is history I wish the Internet existed then. Knowledge and the ability to use it is the most powerful tool it resisting a cults subtle persuations.

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  Will there be any mention of John Pauls death at the KH tommorrow?

  by Dismembered in

  1. social
  2. current

  with the death of john paul ii, will there be any honorable mention at the sunday meeting tommorrow?.

  dismembered.

  "don't you go dyin' on me now"

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  If the WT/GB had the power and influence like that of the Pope and Catholic Church the world would be a very dangerous place. Can you picture a more organized religious state than the Taliban, that?s what the WT world control would be like? Their paradise is imagined on the deaths of BILLIONS of lives while they cheer over it. I don't see the Pope or Catholics doing that and I'm not a Pope supporter either.

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  I've avoided the elders so far...but could this all change on SATURDAY?

  by logansrun in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well, it has been almost three years since i silently and dramatically vanished from the world of the watchtower.

  moving an hour away from my congregation's territory and not answering phone calls was all i needed to avoid having to wear the letter "a" on my chest.

  but, that could all change this saturday.

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  HoChiMin

  An ex-JW friend of mine recently informed me a very prominant pioneer-Super Dub daughter of an elder gave him a BJ after field service in their car one day (or night, hopefull night!).

  Now that is the kind of "service" that would have kept me in.

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  If The Watchtower were to go bankrupt from lawsuits,Do you think GB and...?

  by frankiespeakin in

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  if the watchtower were to go bankrupt from lawsuits???

  do you think the governing body and friends would try to hide large sums of money?

  my reasoning is:

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  HoChiMin

  Positively, Absolutely, Completely, Really, Certainly, Definitinly, Surely they would hide money.

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