Posts by elder-schmelder

I have come to the conclusion that the only way that this religion can make any sense, is if you just pass all thinking over to the covering body and just take what ever answer they give you.

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E'noch - What happened?

by elder-schmelder in

bible story book:.

one day jehovah god had e noch tell the people something they did not want to hear.

it was this: god is someday going to destroy all the bad people.

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Now I have been reading all about E'noch and I find out that the Book of E'noch is one of the books that did not make the bible.

According to Watchtower logic (if there is any logic in the Watchtower), when the NT quotes from the OT then that proves that God's name should be in the NT.

If this is true then should not the book of E'noch be in the bible because the book of Jude quotes from it?

The book is referred to, and quoted, in Jude 14-15 :

"And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these [men], saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him."

Compare this with Enoch 1:9, translated from the Ethiopic:

"And behold! He cometh with ten thousands of His holy ones To execute judgement upon all, And to destroy all the ungodly: And to convict all flesh Of all the works of their ungodliness which they have ungodly committed, And of all the hard things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him."

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Good to be back

by iknewit in

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friends

i've been off the board a while, a little longer than i wanted, but only recently could i sign back in.

my old screen name was zack.. i have enjoyed reading all the posts and all the info that keeps me up to date on the goings on of the wts.. officially i am still in, although my life has changed radically.

this memorial will be three years that i have not been to a meeting, and i resigned as an elder six months prior to that.. long and short, the wts has cost me my marriage.

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What area of the country are you from?

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E'noch - What happened?

by elder-schmelder in

bible story book:.

one day jehovah god had e noch tell the people something they did not want to hear.

it was this: god is someday going to destroy all the bad people.

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The only thing that would make sense to me would be that he was transfered to Heaven.

If JW's believe that after you die you are nothing, then E'noch would not have been transfered, he would have died. So if he was transfered that would mean that he had to go somewhere.

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E'noch - What happened?

by elder-schmelder in

bible story book:.

one day jehovah god had e noch tell the people something they did not want to hear.

it was this: god is someday going to destroy all the bad people.

elder-schmelder

Bible story book:

One day Jehovah God had E´noch tell the people something they did not want to hear. It was this: ‘God is someday going to destroy all the bad people.’ The people were probably very angry to hear this. They may even have tried to kill E´noch. So E´noch needed to be very brave to tell the people about what God was going to do.

God did not let E´noch live a long time among those bad people. E´noch lived to be only 365 years old. Why do we say “only 365 years”? Because men in those days were much stronger than now and lived much longer.

Hebrews 11:5

5 By faith E´noch was transferred so as not to see death, and he was nowhere to be found because God had transferred him; for before his transference he had the witness that he had pleased God well.

Genesis 5:24

24 And E´noch kept walking with the [true] God. Then he was no more, for God took him.

"God had transferred him"

"God Took Him"

Where did he transfer him or take him?

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Did you have to miss sex ed class?

by rebel8 in

i had to sit out sex ed classes and also evolution classes (yep, pretty much all science classes).. oh, and i wasn't allowed to participate in music class several times.....besides the usual holiday music, once we had to do a play [oklahoma i think] and my character was supposed to say i had a flat chest.

funny, because the youth book is much racier than that.. oh, and gym class when we did yoga stretching.

satan sure is tricky.. did you have to sit out certain classes?.

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I had to miss the "Pep ralleys"

Now I miss the Witness pep ralleys - "Assemblys"

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Favorite thing about Vegas??? Anyone close enough for a hook -up?

by AWAKE&WATCHING in

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i'll post available dates if anyone would like to meet lennyinbluemont and i. we'll be there end of march/first of april but i'm not sure of availability yet.

feel free to send a pm.. so...favorite thing about vegas???

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I love everthing about VEGAS. Free Drinks is my favorite. I went 4 times last year.

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WELCOME, ALL NEW ONES!!!

by minimus in

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friends

i hope you enjoy this place as much as we do!

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I agree this is like reopening the door (Like 1935)

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