i was just told by my dad that my name was brought up last night in the elders meeting.. my dad (is or was) an elder, and he told me that the elders are going to be giving me a call.
they have heard rumors that i am an apostate !!.
he said that the elders received a call from another hall that heard that i was an apostate and 1 local brother also turned me in.. does this mean that they have 2 witness to my sin and that they can df me without a jc?.
It went better then I expected. I found out that it was my dad that brought my name up to the elders and told on me. It sounds like to me that they are willing to let it go and leave me along for awhile.
I have a recording of the meeting and I might post it online.
I told them that I am just weak and just need some more time to read the bible.
elder-schmelder
i was just told by my dad that my name was brought up last night in the elders meeting.. my dad (is or was) an elder, and he told me that the elders are going to be giving me a call.
they have heard rumors that i am an apostate !!.
he said that the elders received a call from another hall that heard that i was an apostate and 1 local brother also turned me in.. does this mean that they have 2 witness to my sin and that they can df me without a jc?.
My profile is messed up and I dont know how to change it. I am not df'd, that profile is my brother how was using my account for awhile because he cant log in. I am the brother that he wrote about in the profile.
elder-schmelder
i was just told by my dad that my name was brought up last night in the elders meeting.. my dad (is or was) an elder, and he told me that the elders are going to be giving me a call.
they have heard rumors that i am an apostate !!.
he said that the elders received a call from another hall that heard that i was an apostate and 1 local brother also turned me in.. does this mean that they have 2 witness to my sin and that they can df me without a jc?.
I am going to meet with them tonight. I will post an update after.
elder-schmelder
was thinking about this for a bit, if a day to yahweh is a 1000 years, then what jesus actually gave up to come down here with mankind was about 40 minutes, so whats the big deal, we all have done things we don't like for 40 minutes.
so just how big a sacrifice was it for someone who knows his typical day is a 1000 years to spend 40 minutes being pushed around?.
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Great point - I will use that one.
elder-schemdler
i just spoke with my jw dad.
he said that the last days did not start in 1914. he said that the last days don't have a date for starting that it is a general time frame that we are living in now.
we know that because all of the signs of the last days are seen by everyone.. .
I think that I will ask him to show that to me.
elder-schmelder
i just spoke with my jw dad.
he said that the last days did not start in 1914. he said that the last days don't have a date for starting that it is a general time frame that we are living in now.
we know that because all of the signs of the last days are seen by everyone.. .
I think that I will ask him to show that to me.
elder-schmelder
i just spoke with my jw dad.
he said that the last days did not start in 1914. he said that the last days don't have a date for starting that it is a general time frame that we are living in now.
we know that because all of the signs of the last days are seen by everyone.. .
I just spoke with my JW dad. He said that the last days did not start in 1914. He said that the last days don't have a date for starting that it is a general time frame that we are living in now. We know that because all of the signs of the last days are seen by everyone.
Did the JW's change something with 1914 being the start of the last days, or is my dad crazy?
elder-schmelder
this is always a passage in the bible that puzzeled me, the isrealites wanted meat, so god gave them quail and then killed them for eating it!?!?!.
if there is an explanation i certainly never heard it from the wtbs!??.
i might also point out that when i listened to the bible drama recordings of this passage as a child, it sounded like the narrator was saying "whale" not " quail"!
What bible book is this in.
elder-schmelder
i was just told by my dad that my name was brought up last night in the elders meeting.. my dad (is or was) an elder, and he told me that the elders are going to be giving me a call.
they have heard rumors that i am an apostate !!.
he said that the elders received a call from another hall that heard that i was an apostate and 1 local brother also turned me in.. does this mean that they have 2 witness to my sin and that they can df me without a jc?.
I am still waiting for the call from the elders. I dont know what I want to do yet. I think that I am going to just say that I dont have time to meet with them but if they want to mail a letter to me I would reply to it.
elder-schemdler
i was just told by my dad that my name was brought up last night in the elders meeting.. my dad (is or was) an elder, and he told me that the elders are going to be giving me a call.
they have heard rumors that i am an apostate !!.
he said that the elders received a call from another hall that heard that i was an apostate and 1 local brother also turned me in.. does this mean that they have 2 witness to my sin and that they can df me without a jc?.
That is what I figured. If I dont want to be df'd then I have to go to the meeting and play mind games with them. I just dont know if I want to do that.
elder-schmelder
