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  At a loss what to do RE: JW family and my kids

  by 2pink in

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  2. friends

  i have 2 small kids, ages 4 and 5 yrs and one on the way (via adoption!).

  my husband and i faded/suddenly disappeared last fall, never to go back to meetings.

  we outed ourselves and told our super hardcore parents/family members that we didn't believe it anymore, were choosing a different path etc.

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  "Jesus did not die on the cross" (Gunnar Samuelsson)

  by Titus in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  "jesus did not die on the cross" .

  a new doctoral dissertation in theology from gothenburg university claims that the bible has been misinterpreted when it comes to how jesus died.

  gunnar samuelsson who wrote the dissertation has studied the original texts and sees no explicit references to crucifiction.

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  I'd like to know who you were before you were baptized a JW? Were you raised a JW? What religion or denomination of Christianity did you profess before you became a JW.

  by SAHARA in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  if you were raised a jw, how well did you research the history of the org.

  before you were baptized?

  if you were a convert to the watchtower society , how well did you know the doctrines of the faith before your conversion?

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  Why not make a true religion?

  by frigginconfused in

  1. jw
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  with everthing ive read here it seems like eeveryone has the attitude that they cant fix the wts.

  why havent you all joined together and made a declaration of independence?

  why not fix it and make a true religion of peace and jesus' message?

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  What made Jesus' followers believe that Jesus rose from the dead?

  by John Kesler in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  what made some of jesus' followers believe that jesus rose from the dead?

  my best guess--and as e.p.

  sanders says, we really don't know--is that jesus' followers--distraught, sad, and disillusioned--had visions in what we now call altered states of consciousness, a condition that can be induced by fasting, sleep deprivation, and fatigue.

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  What Hinders the Governing Body From Learning From Their Mistakes? Could Delusions Of Being Jehovah's Chosen Ones be to Blame?

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  we all suffer delusions but some are worse than others, and if the governing body's delusions of believing they are spoke person for jehovah are deep then they can not learn from their mistakes,, at least not when true honesty is involved.

  this delusion will color things so heavily and cause them to play loose with the truth even to their own selves that learning from mistakes is out of the question for them,, i think this pathetic double get more generation time new light,, kind of gives you an idea that they ain't all right up stairs so it looks like we will be able watch them go from one blunder to another as they seem to be on auto pilot because of this delusion they have...

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  If I'm so intelligent how did I get drawn in to it all?

  by Lozhasleft in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i consider myself an intelligent woman...maybe not strong on the 'common sense' front, but academically i've done pretty well...so...how on earth did i not see through it all when i was studying in the beginning???.

  i remember worrying about their 'sales pitching' styles and their arrogance of believing they had the 'truth' ...but still i got involved and became totally immersed in it all.

  i feel like i sacrificied our whole family to them, who now shun me.. yesterday, my new son in law, he's a lawyer, asked me how i could have believed it wasnt a cult (topical word this week here) he said he didnt understand how i could have been persuaded to believe it all and trust them with so much and for so many years...... i feel ashamed of myself that i did and that i brought all this upon our family...anyone else relate?.

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  What causes the authority complex the WTS has? Or even common JWs? What drives the need to control others?

  by miseryloveselders in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/194364/1/witnesses-cant-take-the-heat.

  in the thread above, several posters made the point that if xjws could walk away from the religion without losing their family and close friends, then they wouldn't even bother worrying about the wts afterwards.

  they would simply move on in life.

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  Witnesses "can't take the heat"

  by Olin Moyles Ghost in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  have you ever heard a witness say something like "why do apostates have to keep talking about the wts/jw faith?

  why don't they just go on with their lives?

  if they've found something better, why don't they just focus on that instead of us?

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  Lakers or Celtics?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it's tied, 1 to 1. i'm with the green team over lala boys.

  my prediction it'll be celtics in best out of 7..

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