Posts by verystupid77

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JWs say its impossible for "worldly people" to be happy

by shopaholic in

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i've had 3 different jws tell me this over the past few weeks.

basically their thinking is non-jws are not happy and when they appear to be its not real, its not a true happiness.

according to them, non-jws use drugs, alcohol and wild sex to make themselves happy.

verystupid77

Hi, I just wanted to bump this thread up. I totally agree that JWs are not happy. I have been one my whole life there is so much that I have seen that it has caused me such depression. Oh my word could I go on. It is so hard to see hateful things happening and not to be able to stop it. I am told just leave it alone Jehovah will take care of it, or it is not Jehovah's time to take care of it, or you do not want to run ahead of Jehovah, or the elders who Jehovah has placed their. You need to trust the elders, Jehovah is using them and when really bad things happen and nothing is done then people get really hurt and I come back and ask why was something not done, first I am told I do not know my place well not really told but I know I am just a dumb woman and than I am told to let it go. Just let it go let it go let it go. Jehovah must have been teasting that person. YOU NEED TO LET IT GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am like this person is so hurt and bleeding and it did not have to happen why did it happen the elders knew. Well only Jehovah knows why he allows things to happen there must be a reason. Their reasoning is so insane it just drives you crazy. It is so crazy making.

The people I work for are all happy for the most part way happier than most JW's I know. They have good lifes and they do not sleep around their kids are happy way happier than most JW's I could go on and on. When I tell my husband that he says well the people you work for are not normal. What I have worked for about 35 different familes and not one suffers the sadness I do. I am so sad it is unreal and it is just so insane his reasoing. I am in the HAPPY religon right. No I am in the insane religion It is so insane it makes me mad.Well I am done venting but this is so crazy making I could just scream.

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Do any of you in, actively try to get people out?

by cognac in

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however, sometimes i have a tendency to say to much.

one of these days i'm gonna get in trouble for it again... i just recently told my sil that the blood thing doesn't bother my conscience.

i told another close friend that i was relieved my husband was no longer reaching out to be an ms because i didn't want to have to deal with the pressure all the time.

verystupid77

It is so totaly insane how they think. I am fading and was talking to a sister this last weekend about the new book study she just went on and on about how kind the brothers were for giving us an ext night. I could not believe what she was saying. I had to stop her when se went on about how they did not want us to spend money on gas they were looking out for us but how could they have known that gas would go down instead of up. What I thought Jehovah talked to them they should have know right? Oh my word did she even hear herself. I just said well how come they did not care about the poor brothers who went through swamps and battled crocodiles or walked 3 hours one way though flooding rivers balancing their clothes and shoes on their heads and you are trying to tell me that they stoped the book study for us rich people becasue of gas. That makes no sense. Her eyes glazed over and she quit talking but I know I did not reach her. How oh how can they be so dumb.

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JWs say its impossible for "worldly people" to be happy

by shopaholic in

jw
friends

i've had 3 different jws tell me this over the past few weeks.

basically their thinking is non-jws are not happy and when they appear to be its not real, its not a true happiness.

according to them, non-jws use drugs, alcohol and wild sex to make themselves happy.

verystupid77

Shop you are right on. Oh how many fights I have had with my husband over this kind of thinking. Only JW's are happy but most are so depressed it is unreal. Or they are crazy. And I mean crazy. I often think what in the world the poor householder at the door must be think having this person who makes no sense talking to them about God, and wasting their time.

I just do not understand how they think they have the truth and feel that everyone is going to die from their God of love. It is just oh so unloving thinking. vs77

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Jehovah's Witnesses and Child Protection ? Not. Check this Out !

by flipper in

these quotes and excerpts i'm going to post here come from the " jehovah's witnesses - office of public information " from their website as it was posted on 12/2/07.

my wife and i have a lurking witness friend who sent us this information as she is very pro-active trying to fight child abuse from within the organization itself !

so get your barf bags ready- you are going to need them to stomach this " official policy " garbage from the wt society.

verystupid77

Ok so I have clamed down now from reniaa. Yes Flipper I agree that it would be good for me to share my story but I am just not quite ready yet. I guess I am still in shook that this is really happening. I still am hopping it is all just a bad dream and what I am seeing is not truly happening. But I know that is just wishful dreaming. It is hard because I am a born in and this has been my whole life this religion. The pedophiles are what woke me up. Mayve in a while I can share what I know. Sometime I truly feel like I am having a nerves breakdown. Like I am just loosing it the stress is very hard. Thank you Flipper for your kind words and ones like reniaa is the reason I am fighting so hard form within. It would be imposable to do this from outside so if I get DF I could do nothing aht I think that would kill me to know that this is happening. So I am trying to hang in. Thank you again Filpper

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Jehovah's Witnesses and Child Protection ? Not. Check this Out !

by flipper in

these quotes and excerpts i'm going to post here come from the " jehovah's witnesses - office of public information " from their website as it was posted on 12/2/07.

my wife and i have a lurking witness friend who sent us this information as she is very pro-active trying to fight child abuse from within the organization itself !

so get your barf bags ready- you are going to need them to stomach this " official policy " garbage from the wt society.

verystupid77

Flipper

Help me out I am too worked up no matter how much I tie to clam down. You have to answer reniaa. That kind of response is just crazy.

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Jehovah's Witnesses and Child Protection ? Not. Check this Out !

by flipper in

these quotes and excerpts i'm going to post here come from the " jehovah's witnesses - office of public information " from their website as it was posted on 12/2/07.

my wife and i have a lurking witness friend who sent us this information as she is very pro-active trying to fight child abuse from within the organization itself !

so get your barf bags ready- you are going to need them to stomach this " official policy " garbage from the wt society.

verystupid77

Sorry about my the word I spelled wrong. But also as far a going in service in pairs durning the tact campain everyone worked by themselves. And this creep looooves service. So much for you saying we are better than the RCC because we only work in pairs that is just crazy talk. It must be nice to live in you glass house reniaa

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Jehovah's Witnesses and Child Protection ? Not. Check this Out !

by flipper in

these quotes and excerpts i'm going to post here come from the " jehovah's witnesses - office of public information " from their website as it was posted on 12/2/07.

my wife and i have a lurking witness friend who sent us this information as she is very pro-active trying to fight child abuse from within the organization itself !

so get your barf bags ready- you are going to need them to stomach this " official policy " garbage from the wt society.

verystupid77

reniaa

When I read you response I was so mad I could hardly see. I wrote a 20 page response to you. Then I thought clam down, all this woman wants is drama. You must have a very sad life. For all the others who read this thread eveything she has said is crazy I know for a fact that pedophiles can and do go door to door with maybe only their wife or some poor person who dose not have a clue what or who he is. So what good is that to the poor people who open their this this creep. Also the pedophile knows how to write so he can allways take good notes of where the cuite kid lives and call back latter. For reniaa to say that we are better procted than the RCC is garbage. This man touches kids right in front of the elders and nothing is done. All he is doing is just touching their amr what is that going to hurt. O wait that is called grooming. That ia what pedophiles also do.

Every parent has a right to know who a pedophile is and for the JW's to not informe the parent, IT IS A CRIME.

And reniaa you are just to be pitted you must have a very trouble soul and no life because all you do is try to cause drama. What kind of life is that??????

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Why the hey did we not WALK away in 1995?? the gen. thing

by oompa in

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i remember arguing with a bethel elder friend of mine during a long ride to an assembly about the"new light" in 1995....that the generation of 1914 is not the "this generation" that jesus referred to: .

(luke21:32)32 truly i say to you, this generation will by no means pass away until all things occur.

yep....pretty damm simple to me for 45 years...the generation that sees all the "signs" will not die before armageddon....thus we honest hearted ones pleaded with our back calls, or return visits to study with us before it is too late!....the time is soooo short, cause these 1914 folk are gettin damm old!....hurry in and be saved!.

verystupid77

The people who believe this stuff are so blinded. At our meeting last Sunday the elder who gave the talk blamed the friends for believing in 1975 said that any who said that was the end of the system had been running ahead of the FDS. That he FDS never had tought that. I was like what are you talking about. I clearly remember being taught form the stage that the end was coming in 1975. I was sure I was going to be dead as everyone one in the hall hated my crazy family and I was sure Jehovah did too. What a way to live when you are just seven and eight years old believeing that this God of love is going to kill you because of your parents. Now to sit there 30 years latter and to be told that I made it all up is insane. This is such a crazy making religion.vs77

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Jehovah's Witnesses and Child Protection ? Not. Check this Out !

by flipper in

these quotes and excerpts i'm going to post here come from the " jehovah's witnesses - office of public information " from their website as it was posted on 12/2/07.

my wife and i have a lurking witness friend who sent us this information as she is very pro-active trying to fight child abuse from within the organization itself !

so get your barf bags ready- you are going to need them to stomach this " official policy " garbage from the wt society.

verystupid77

Flipper

What a great thread. It just makes me sick what they are doing to the children.

And reniaa it is amazing that you can be so blind but than again there are people who do not believe that the Holocaust happened either. YOU must be one of them. vs77

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Conversations with my 81 yr.old JW mom - Implementing a little Steve Hassan

by flipper in

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friends

as some of you know my mom and dad have been jw's since 1951 .

since time began.

they are very respectful of my fade - and i have been able to talk especially with my mom about my doubts since leaving the org.

verystupid77

Yes I think you are right on. No you do not want to take away her friends but living a lie is not good either. I love your reasoning points. I am trying to do this with my husband. It is so hard there are so many time I just want to scream what is wrong with you that you can not see this. But I have seen him coming back to me after I have just thrown something out there and I can see that he has been thinking over what I said he has even told me that I have made some good points. It is so hard to go slow but we have to. Like the thread on we just need to wait on Jehovah. My husband uses that one all the time it just make me crazy how stupid that reasoning is. I have such a hard time not telling him that especally when he uses that about the pedophiles. There is no wating when it comes to that and he agress with me that the FDS is wrong but Jehovah is allowing it for some reason. I know I just need to go slow. Thanks for your thread flipper.