Hi Benjamin
Glad that you are here and had the courage to put down the Watchtowers and antidepressants. Thanks for the post it was great.
hi everyone... you might remember me from the username 'darklighter' ... if you don't, no big.
i used to post on here about a year ago.
i was stuck inside the watchtower corporation, with everone around me still believing.
Hi Benjamin
Glad that you are here and had the courage to put down the Watchtowers and antidepressants. Thanks for the post it was great.
due to the fact there are about 27,000 members of this religion that are known pedophiles, and the information about it is kept in a secret database file, i wonder how many lurking jw's as well as others are aware of the severity of this problem?
remember, it's 27,000 pedophiles that they know about.
what about the thousands that don't get caught?
I have not had the time to read through all of the new posts Flipper. But the answer to your question on this thread is yes I was molested and it totally screws up your whole life. I totally feel Big Tex's pain. It hurts more than you can know. The pain never goes away. None of the elders ever did a dam thing to help me as a child or now.
Reniaa I just cannot even comment on her right now I was so mad at what she said.
I am so thankful for ones like Big Tex, he speaks for me and how I feel. I wish I had the courage he has. The pain of being abused NEVER NEVER NEVER leaves you. For Reniaa to make light of the WT's policy it so hurtful. The WT did nothing to help me and I am watching things happen right now in the hall with not one elder doing dam thing yet again to to stop it. Not only that but I have been the one to get in trouble for even talking about it!!!!!!!!!
I have to stop. I do not have time to keep writing and I am just to mad right now from what I read from Reniaa.
Thanks Big Tex,((((((((((((hugs)))))))))))))) I am so thankful for what you said. The pain of us victims should never be put down like Reniaa just did.
so, we were brought up in/enticed into an organisation that we believed was a spiritual paradise.
everyone appearing to be better than the world around them.
my experience was of youngsters leading double lives, partying hard like the best of the world.
I found that on a basic level people are good. I now have friends that do not judge me for: how many meetings I do or do not attend, how many times I show my face in the ministry, whether I believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster or God or Allah, how big or small my house is. They like (or do not like) me based on who I really am. They are loyal friends, faithful partners and instill good morals in their kids (and most do not go to Church....). Totally unlike the picture painted by the Society. Although I miss my old JW friends, I certainly don't miss the subtle (and not so subtle) judgementalism of those friendships.
I totally agree with you on everything you just said. I am just now leaving and everyone I have made friends with are very moral live very clean lives. I love that they do not judge me like I was in the witnesses world. So far the peace of not being at the meetings has been nice.
some of the memorable moments today would be:.
1) the nutty mother on stage with her little boy who became an unbaptized publisher at 6. i missed his current age, but he was a tiny little kid, couldn't be much older than a couple years over 6. tomorrow he gets baptized.
2) the husband and wife couple who work part-time to pioneer, but wanted to do more so they sold their home, down-sized to one car and made other adjustments to make their lives more simple to put the kingdom first.
Good luck tomorrow. Oh I forgot we can't say the word luck. I heard the DC is a dozy this year.
some of you have been like family to me.
yet, it's time that i must say good-bye.
my husband and i have chosen to study the scriptures together on two conditions:.
We will miss you, I loved you comments. Hope iit goes well for you. vs
this presentation goes over jerry bergman's research on mental illness with jehovah's witnesses.
this includes over 8 different research projects conducted by different doctors.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urbxtvuat1g.
btt
no, nothing earth shaking.... just that there are two threads currently running...one asking the guys of jwn to post pics to make a 'hottie' calender for the girls and another asking the girls to post some pics.... how is this proof of how the society/jws is a cult, you ask?.
this statement was posted on one of the threads:.
can't see a lot posting in friends....too much of a risk.... it got me to thinking...even though many of us consider ourselves ex-jws, no longer believing, no longer active, no longer stepping foot in hall, no longer associating with jws other than family, it still is a risk to post your name or a photo.. the simple enjoyment of sharing real information such as a real name or a photo is dangerous to many here who, though they left of their own accord but not officially, could still be found out posting on an "apostate" board and hunted down like criminals and treated to harsh measures.
How true. Sad but ture
in a recent thread i started on music i couldn't help noticing how many had to throw their alleged " worldly music " out because parents, or elders told them their music brought them " under the influence of demons ", or listening to music was how " the demons got inside us ".
this superstitious belief that " satan " is to blame for each witnesses demise is really a passing of the buck of responsibility so it sidesteps real issues involved.. for example : check these familiar expressions out we all heard while we were jehovah's witnesses .. .
1. if a person was stumbled and said, " i don't want to go to meetings anymore.
Thanks Alltime Jeff you made total sense.
yeah, i hated "field circus".
i don't like bothering people on saturday mornings about the latest watchtower & awake magazines and try to convert them from their religon to become a jehovah's witness.
so, what i did was just wait until the group passes by and fake knocked.
Isaacaustin
You are right on. I always felt like that. Even when I truly believed that this was the truth I just could not accept the way we did it. I was like come on this means peoples lives what are we doing just driving around aimlessly. I remember telling the friends (they were not in anyway friends) in the car group that we have been blessed to know the truth and we have got to tell the people in the territory because the system is so close to the end everyone is going to die if we do not reach them and I would just be so frustrated driving all day getting out of the car if I was lucky once sometimes I did not get out at all. Why did I not get a clue than.
The flip side of this was that I hated to talk at the door because I always just felt like a magazine sales person and I was never sure what in the heck I was truly doing there but I bought into it so much that I believed it. Oh it was so crazy looking back.
Oh My God how stupid was I. That may be a good name in some ways but I was really stupid. I bought into in all the way. Yeah Spike and Reniaa go for it if you really think this is the true religion get in your cars and drive all day long hitting two house along the way. We have to get the preaching work done you know it is a life saving work.
in a recent thread i started on music i couldn't help noticing how many had to throw their alleged " worldly music " out because parents, or elders told them their music brought them " under the influence of demons ", or listening to music was how " the demons got inside us ".
this superstitious belief that " satan " is to blame for each witnesses demise is really a passing of the buck of responsibility so it sidesteps real issues involved.. for example : check these familiar expressions out we all heard while we were jehovah's witnesses .. .
1. if a person was stumbled and said, " i don't want to go to meetings anymore.
bbt