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  Why do you think Jesus never wrote anything down?

  by journey-on in

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  if his message was to be followed like a rule book, wouldn't he have written down some things with his own hand?.

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  verystupid77

  He is like the FDS they never write anything either. 1975, pedophiles, etc that way they can say I never said that or the elders can be sued if a pedo rapes a kid because nothing is in wrtting.
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  Is being a JW like being a drug addict?

  by mkr32208 in

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  ok so once again i was thinking (damn i know i should stop doing that!

  ) and this is what i was thinking about!.

  the jw religion is very much like a drug.

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  verystupid77

  I totally agree. I have not been to the meetings in seven weeks and the with drawls are horrible, I mean the guilt and self blame. Why? I truly do not know I like not going and really feel better no being there but I have this horrible withdraw feeling. I keep thinking I need another fix. Buy I have not given in. So far so good.
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  Accidental Instantaneous Sex

  by rebel8 in

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  the litter-ature over the years has teachings that imply jehovah's special people are all on the verge of having unplanned sex on a moment's notice, with anyone, at any time.. you must have a chaperone if you are to be alone with someone of the opposite sex, even briefly.. this applies to people of any ages.

  you could be a 99-year-old raisin whose flagpole hasn't risen since rutherford was living in beth sarim, but you still shouldn't be alone with a pimply 16-year-old shy obese virgin who still plays with barbie dolls.

  she's a seductress!

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  verystupid77

  You know I think Rennia is a very self centered person who just enjoys stupidity. She see pedophiles in a great light and does not see any problem with them in the truth as from past posts. It was like oh my God how can she be so stupid.

  She loves to hijack posts to get attention. Just DO NOT RESPOND TO HER. When she post act like she is not there. She will soon tire of it. All she wants is attention. If you do not give it to her hopefully her stupidity will it her in her face.

  I do not mean to be mean but Rennia is mean. She does not have a clue what in the world she is talking about.

  Elders not at you home 24/7. How stupid is she?
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  My Analysis of the Special Talk

  by metatron in

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  i found the special talk to be a bit more bizarre than usual as it seemed to invent a parallel dimension in which churches freely preach hate and racial division in contrast to "the truth".

  deeply fantasy laden yet somehow vague and unfocused.. what i do find significant is a change in emphasis.

  in the past, these sort of talks used to drone on about how wonderful the organization is relative to the evil surrounding world.

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  verystupid77

  All very true. Extremely strange especially about the woman in Africa who have to have sex with a male family member when their husbands die. What was up with that? How did that tie in to anything really? Where in Africa was this, what village? How many people live there, etc, raised a lot more questions then it helped to tie it into the talk.

  Then I get this call later in the day from a older sister all worried that I missed the talk about forgivenesses because we did not go to our hall for the talk but went else where.? What was with that. I was so blown away I just let it pass, but I did not hear anything about forgiveness in the talk.
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  Some Single Sisters' Problems with Brothers

  by friday77 in

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  first of all, i'm a newbie to this site, so i hope that there will be some response to my thread on this particular topic (which i have plenty to relate about).. i wonder why some single (and a few married) brothers in the org have shown a great deal of disrespect for single sisters?

  i am bringing this issue up because not only myself but also my sisters [i have four (4) other in my immediate family] along with 3 of my cousins (who have been dedicated and baptized since adolescent age) plus my own close girlfriends have experienced being gossiped/slandered by a host of brothers who think that they are "all that" and jah's gift to women on planet earth!

  as a matter fact, when one brother in particular [whose uncle is an elder, brother was a regular pioneer/temporary worker at bethel and cousin was a ministerial servant] at a nicely-populated gathering saw myself, two (2) of four sisters, one of cousins and a few of my close friends being approached as well as introduced to a number of handsome, well-dressed brothers to us via two (2) of the family members whom hosted the event.

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  verystupid77

  Word of advice; RUN, don't walk away from this cult!!!!!! Amen get out now!!!!! How I wish I had. Please get out. Do not marry in I repeat do not marry in. Get out. I speak from expereace. There truly is a life for you out there. Life is so short. Jehovah gave us this gife use it to do good, not bring more in. I wish someone had told me that 25 years ago. vs77
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  Invited back to the meetings but not invited into their lives

  by truthseeker in

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  it never ceases to amaze me that dubs are happy when they invite an inactive one back to the hall but would never take the extra step and invite them into their life, not even for a simple meal.. it's nice to see you at the meetings and that's as far as it will ever get.. does the social aspect of christianity not apply to them?.

  please share your experiences if you were invited back to the hall but not invited back to their house..

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  verystupid77

  I have been an elders wife for 21 years, I have the friends over for dinner, clean the older sisters homes, I do a lot. I have given money and gifts without telling anyone, just sliped ones things. I always thought do not let you left hand know what your right hand is doing.

  Everyone comes to our home but we are never invited into their home. I can count on one hand the number of invites that we have had in the last five years. One elders wife even had the gull to say well you have only invited us to your home once a year ago. I was like you have got to be kidding. I have never been to your home. They are unbelivably rude and selfish.

  I just got told by an elder that I only do things for apearances but he does not even know what I have done. He was always ready to come over to our home or out to eat when I paid though. We never got invites to his home though. It just makes me so mad.
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  From 'Everlasting Life' to just a few more years. How did you handle the realisation that you WOULD die?

  by nicolaou in

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  the thing is, a lot of us thought we'd never die.

  do you comprehend what a truly massive mind-fuck that is?

  when i was embroiled in doubts and knew i was heading 'out of the truth' i remember waves of nausea hitting me.

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  verystupid77

  To me it sucks. I am just learing that this was all a lie. I guess I am still somewhat in shcok. How could I have been so strupid. I grew up in it and I always thought Jehovah would destory me. But to know that it was all a lie is hard.
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  Why do so many Xjw's not end up in some sort of trouble?

  by AK - Jeff in

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  my observation has been the opposite of agb's in this regard.

  i have known of precisely 0 who have turned to gangs/drugs/prostitution after abandonning the lies known as jehovah's witnesses.

  most seem to lead lives of quiet hope outside the mainstream religious community once they leave - but far from dangerous lives [even from the jw perspective].. just thought counter-point might be fairplay here.. do xjw's live like jw's?

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  verystupid77

  I agree, I think we only hear of the bad because that is what they want us to believe. I never have wanted to muder someone and get into drugs and have sex all the time with anyone who happens by. It is all just a buch of lies that they tell to keep us in the lie.
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  Service meeting last week on how to treat DF ones

  by tinker in

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  i just learned there was a service meeting part last week on how to treat df ones.

  the person i heard this from said it was very hard on many in her congo.

  did anyone attend that meeting or has there been discussion here?

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  verystupid77

  It was the congregation Bible study from the book "Keep Yourselves in God's Love Pages 207-209

  HowtoTreataDisfellowshippedPerson

  Few things can hurt us more deeply than the pain we suffer when a relative or a close friend is expelled from the congregation for unrepentant sin. How we respond to the Bible’s direction on this matter can reveal the depth of our love for God and of our loyalty to his arrangement. Consider some questions that arise on this subject.

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  shouldwetreatadisfellowshippedperson? The Bible says: “Quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, not even eating with such a man.” (1 Corinthians 5:11) Regarding everyone that “does not remain in the teaching of the Christ,” we read: “Never receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him. For he that says a greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works.” (2 John 9-11) We do not have spiritual or social fellowship with disfellowshipped ones. TheWatchtower of September 15, 1981, page 25, stated: “A simple ‘Hello’ to someone can be the first step that develops into a conversation and maybe even a friendship. Would we want to take that first step with a disfellowshiped person?”

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  strictavoidancereallynecessary? Yes, for several reasons. First, it is a matter of loyalty to God and his Word. We obey Jehovah not only when it is convenient but also when doing so presents real challenges. Love for God moves us to obey all his commandments, recognizing that he is just and loving and that his laws promote the greatest good. (Isaiah 48:17; 1 John 5:3) Second, withdrawing from an unrepentant wrongdoer protects us and the rest of the congregation from spiritual and moral contamination and upholds the congregation’s good name. (1 Corinthians 5:6, 7) Third, our firm stand for Bible principles may even benefit the disfellowshipped one. By supporting the decision of the judicial committee, we may touch the heart of a wrongdoer who thus far has failed to respond to the efforts of the elders to assist him. Losing precious fellowship with loved ones may help him to come “to his senses,” see the seriousness of his wrong, and take steps to return to Jehovah.—Luke 15:17.

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  ifarelativeisdisfellowshipped? In such a case, the close bond between family members can pose a real test of loyalty. How should we treat a disfellowshipped relative? We cannot here cover every situation that may arise, but let us focus on two basic ones.

  In some instances, the disfellowshipped family member may still be living in the same home as part of the immediate household. Since his being disfellowshipped does not sever the family ties, normal day-to-day family activities and dealings may continue. Yet, by his course, the individual has chosen to break the spiritual bond between him and his believing family. So loyal family members can no longer have spiritual fellowship with him. For example, if the disfellowshipped one is present, he would not participate when the family gets together to study the Bible. However, if the disfellowshipped one is a minor child, the parents are still responsible to instruct and discipline him. Hence, loving parents may arrange to conduct a Bible study with the child.—Proverbs 6:20-22; 29:17.

  In other cases, the disfellowshipped relative may be living outside the immediate family circle and home. Although there might be a need for limited contact on some rare occasion to care for a necessary family matter, any such contact should be kept to a minimum. Loyal Christian family members do not look for excuses to have dealings with a disfellowshipped relative not living at home. Rather, loyalty to Jehovah and his organization moves them to uphold the Scriptural arrangement of disfellowshipping. Their loyal course has the best interests of the wrongdoer at heart and may help him to benefit from the discipline received.—Hebrews 12:11.

  [Footnotes]Bible principles on this subject apply equally to those who disassociate themselves from the congregation.

  For more information about disfellowshipped minor children living in the home, see TheWatchtower of October 1, 2001, pages 16-17, and November 15, 1988, page 20.

  For more information about how to treat disfellowshipped relatives, see the Scriptural counsel discussed in TheWatchtower of April 15, 1988, pages 26-31, and September 15, 1981, pages 26-31.
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  Does anyone know of the religious story like this one.

  by verystupid77 in

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  i have been asked to forgive someone that i just cannot forgive.

  i was sent this by any elder i guess to make me forgive.

  i know that it is a religious story that was made into a jw one.

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  verystupid77

  Just wanted to bump this up to see if anyone else might have any ideas. Thanks