Posts by truthlover

I look at this as us now being" aliens in a foreign land" mostly because we have entered into a strange place, we know some of the landmarks, but things have changed, its like a dark place where the light is coming brighter as we wake up and there are shadows everywhere where we used to be secure....we feel scared, unaware of what is going to happen to us as we leave the "security" we felt for years -- maybe over to the side, not really wanting to let go for fear we may be disapproved by God, by Jesus, by those who love us (maybe), we may think we have been mislead all our lives with Russell being associated with Millerites, with Masonry, wrong dates, wrong predictions, wrong interpretations of words, i.e. generation, other sheep, anointed, - Remember when Jehovah gave responsibility to one as a prophet - nothing was amiss.. It was all true - no changes EVER-- yet we chose to follow people who -on the face of it all- portended to be special, truthful, concerned, loving, until we found out differently,and never get it right!! Now Morris wants a kid to be baptized before he gets a drivers license!! -- blackmail!! Something we were told never to use with the kids. I guess you can tell I am no longer impressed ..they are only men, and if WT was to close tomorrow, I would feel relief... maybe somewhat lost, but relief cause I have been praying for Jehovah to start the cleansing work out of the "temple". At that point, I could only wait for whatever is coming for as we all know, death will come and if that is all, then let freedom reign til it happens (within reasons, that is, don't want to sound too nuts)

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Need advice

by Darkknight757 in

hi.i've been pouring over this site for the past few days looking for some advice and i hope there is someone here that can help a guy out.

i'm desperate.....short bio: i came into the organization after high school and shortly after married a wonderful girl who was born-in.we have been happily married now for nearly 20 years and things were well until 2015 hit.

by the way, i currently serve as an elder and have the ""privilege"" of being the "watchtower overseer".. either here nor there, we were told we would never have children but late last year my wife became prego!!

truthlover

DK:

Right now you are not in a position to drop out.

Although this is a sad time for you both, it could be the time when you "can't handle any more responsibilities at this time".... "your wife is having a hard time as are you" ... "you would appreciate it if another brother could take over your responsibilities for now".......

This can be termed as depression and you both need doctors advice as to what to do to help you through this...

AND-- this is not a lie. Take the time to reflect and make yourselves well, then you can proceed with whatever you think will work

TL

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INSPIRED ERROR: new phrase among JW CO

by wannaexit in

jw
friends

there is no end to their madness.

the co gave a talk on inspired error.

i have never heard of it.

truthlover

Looks like we are about to have the TALK in good old Canada now -- CO visit coming up memo states it will be the talk of the evening meeting on his first day here...

Its a misuse of the word inspired-- a painting can "inspire me", the sunset can "inspire" me - but this crazy title of Inspired Truth OR Inspired Error-- what is that??? If that's the case, they have had a lot of inspired errors throughout the past 100 years - what crazy illogic!! Apparently this had been discussed in a WT sev years ago?? Must look see.. must have missed that meeting

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2015 October 5 and 6, BOEs!

by Atlantis in

2015 october 5, boe.. .. click the green download button.. .. re: recommending convention speakers and interpreters .

http://wwwb.fileflyer.com/view/ppyuxbk.

.. .. 2015 october 6, boe.. .. re: convention speaker ratings for bethel brothers .

truthlover

Sent to Co is because the Big Boys don't make decisions like this anymore, the CO's have all the responsibility re the congregations and appointments.

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"I'm feeling down, I'm not faring well; I need help, please help me."

by Tempest in a Teacup in

jw
friends

today i remembered one of my disillusionment episodes, when i was going from rejection to rejection, and i was discovering the wide gap between spewing beautiful words and actually translating them into actions.. a few years ago, in my darkest hours of depression, it occurred to me to send the following sms to one of my closest friends in the congregation.

i truly believed in her friendship and thought i could count on her.

it was one of the very rare moments in which i was ready to put myself completely out there and pour my heart out to someone.

truthlover

TT:

Even tho the WTBTS emotes love and caring through the pages of the WT, it rarely will happen...... when you think you have so many loving brothers and sisters, it really means, they are there, they will smile, they will be friends when you are out in service with them but once you leave the hall, your on your own unless you are in a clicque.

I look back and know that I was as much at fault as those today, thinking everyone was ok --not realizing that people were hurting and when the counsel was given for them to apply scriptural guidelines, it really was not enough. Many folks needed medical or emotional structure from qualified doctors. That is not anything anyone can do but you if needed but tend to your needs immediately. Just know that you are as special as anyone else so take care and look to interests that will enhance your life and well being..

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Building Work

by truthlover in

has there been anything in writing sent out to the elders, co's re the stopping of the "ww building work yet?.

no one has mentioned anything at cong level but it has been mentioned about the bethelites being sent tot the field as of january - canadian bethel is being reduced by 40% and the ones remaining have been told they will have to do work themselves, i.e.

food and cleaning.... .

truthlover

Has there been anything in writing sent out to the elders, co's re the stopping of the "ww building work yet?. No one has mentioned anything at cong level but it has been mentioned about the bethelites being sent tot the field as of January - Canadian bethel is being reduced by 40% and the ones remaining have been told they will have to do work themselves, i.e. food and cleaning....

Anyone else hear this?

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Asking For More Money Again

by rosesinbloom in

we had another letter read this week from the 'slave' that asked for more money again.. it asked for a resolution to be passed by all congregations in support of the circuit overseer to pay their expenses and medical expense was included in there.. a resolution was put on the floor and voted upon and agreed by show of hands that our congregation would send over $2,000 for the year 2016.. the society broke it down to how much it would be per year for each publisher but i do not remember what they suggested.. i was glad i was listening in and not present this week because it would have been obvious i did not support the resolution because my hand would not have been up when the attendance took a count.. has anyone here also had the letter read at their service meeting this week?.

truthlover

yes see ANother Resolution this week