Dear JohnnyC,
May I remind you of Matthew 24:36 Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens or the Son, only the Father.
I would think that says it all. The WTBTS go directly against that scripture and have done so from the very inception of their organization. I say SHAME on them for doing this to their congregants and SHAME on us for being so stupid as to believe in their hogwash!!!! They arrogantly think they can predict the Time of the End when it clearly states in the scriptures that the Son of God does not even know it.
You my poor human are still enmeshed in their web of lies. I pray that you continue your research and set yourself free from this so-called Truth that is not truth at all.
IHaveADream
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Deceptive or just wrong?
by johnnyc ini have been virtually non-stop studying everything i can get my hands on with regards the wtbts, and "apostate" literature and information.
in all honesty, 80% at least is non-sense and over critical.
however, i do find about 20% (if i have to create a percentage reference) is appropriate in its line of reasoning and questioning.
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Escape From Jonestown
by sacolton inthirty years ago, 900 people died by murder and suicide.
only a few survived.
now, cnn special correspondent soledad o'brien reports on their untold stories as "cnn presents: escape from jonestown.
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I want to apologize for the error I made in stating that the Mayor of San Francisco was the government official that was killed at Jonestown. Just as CNN stated, it was Leo Ryan the Congressman from California that was killed that fateful day.
I think what all those people went through was real, living evil...evil incarnate. I recommend an incredible book that you might want to read. It is called Evil: An Investigation by Lance Morrow. I could not put it down. I was watching The Late, Late Show with Craig Ferguson when Mr. Morrow made a guest appearance. The man is so interesting and Craig was so fascinated with his book. After hearing their discussion on the subject of evil, my curiosity piqued and I ordered the book off of Amazon immediately. My husband is now reading it. It raises more questions than it answers and this Jonestown tragedy really falls into the realm of evil happenings.
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Bethel Australia 2 couples go on holidays and swaped partners - True!!?
by Witness 007 ina sister confronted a bethel elder about this in my presence and he confirmed it ....wow!
i thought it was a bull crap rumor...and he said they had been disfellowshiped....any aussies hear of or no more about this?
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Put people together in a virtual intellectual, emotionless vacuum and what do you expect! This has been going on forever. I remember when I first came into the org. and one of the elders who had recently got divorced started spending every free moment he had with me and my hubby and 2 kids. I was young and he was lonely. He eventually told me that he would love to take it to something more than friendship, but we both did not, thank heavens. Can't even remember what I could have possibly found attractive about him. I think I was just naive and flattered.
But I was given the label of "flirt", because I always complimented the brothers on how nice their tie or suit was. I even got a little "counseling" while skating with an elder at the local skating rink (we were doing one of those congregation things) and he told me that I should watch what I say to the brothers because they had talked about me. Dang, guess nobody knew how to take a compliment back then...or maybe I was totally smoking hot and I just never knew it.......Yeah, that's the ticket!!! -
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Escape From Jonestown
by sacolton inthirty years ago, 900 people died by murder and suicide.
only a few survived.
now, cnn special correspondent soledad o'brien reports on their untold stories as "cnn presents: escape from jonestown.
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I remember this day all too well. My husband had a fellow co-worker killed while he was filming the departure of the Mayor of San Francisco and all the others who were boarding the plane to leave. Suddenly, the view from the camera goes sideways and you realize the cameraman was shot (he was hit in the head so he died instantly.) Another cameraman was shot in the arm, but pretended he was dead so he was able to escape. Such an awful, awful day in history. Hard to imagine someone can have that much control over people.
Of course, we all know the origin of the trite phrase about drinking the Kool-aid. Thanks for nothing Jim Jones! -
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Trigger words....
by Country Girl inhave ya'll noticed that there is just a list of words, or series of words, that just triggers you?
words like: encourage, youth, paradise, new world, ya know.. words like that?
when i hear those trigger words i just sink back into another world and i literally want to vomit?
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Gathering
Privilege
New Light
Disfellowship
Time card
Convention
Assembly
Pioneer
Householder
The Society
Governing Body
Dang I could go on and on ad nauseam. Oops excuse me now I do feel nauseated. Gotta go barf!!!! -
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Congratulations on your pregnancy, Cognac. Too bad this Org. that claims to be known for the love they have among themselves cannot show enough common sense to stay home and take care of themselves when they are sick, much less possibly inflicting their illness upon others.
I wish I would have been pregnant when I was attending the meetings. It would have just given me another great excuse to stay home. As it was, I literally got up and walked out of so many meetings and assemblies that I have probably set a record that should be put in the Guinness Book of World Records. Ah, how I do NOT miss the meetings and all the stupid, inane comments and behaviors that occurred during them.
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What sign would you hang on your gate?
by Amha·aret ingiven that i have 4 very large dogs, i like this one: .
'jehovah's witnesses welcome!
dog food is expensive!'.
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Welcome to all Jehovah's Witnesses in the area:
We are running a special today! We are offering a two for one price on neutering being as how the men in the congregation only have one ball and the women have three.
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I am an active elder and I voted today!
by outofthebox intoday is a proud day for me.
i became part of my fellow citizens in this country by casting my vote.
it was a thrilling experience (more like a disney ride really, since the line wasn't that long).
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To Reniaa and all,
I come here on a regular basis and read as much as my mind will allow before it implodes altogether. I find many posts enlightening, many way out there and others quite sad. I do not believe in arguing about any beliefs as I feel that there IS a God, a Son of God and also a Holy Spirit. I do believe that they are all individual creatures. But many believe differently...that's okay by me.
I was a Jehovah's Witness for over thirty years and being one led me to realize that there is not one True organized religion on this Earth. I learned that there is no way to know God's name according to the Bible, because it was so sacred that it was not allowed to be written down. Who knows what YHWH stands for...only God knows. So, therefore, whether you believe in God or not his name is unknowable that is why he said it was SACRED! If we were supposed to know his name Jesus would have revealed it in his sermon on the mount. But no. He said to pray this way: "Our Father who art in Heaven." Not Jehovah who art in Heaven. When he died on the cross, he had the perfect opportunity to use his Father's name and yet...he said,"My God, my God why have you forsaken me."
I know that for me, the only Truth is Jesus Christ. He said he was "The Way, the Truth and the Life." And I believe him. He came to reveal that He was here to lead us to his Father. These are spiritual creatures and who knows where Heaven is or where they reside...who knows it may be another dimension. Does it really matter? I do not rely on others to give their spin to the Bible. The WTS says that intellectuals cannot comprehend the truths of the Bible. Yet here we are having intellectual discussions about that very book. The WTS are the people that distort and confuse the message of the Bible and make it totally incomprehensible. I have a personal relationship with the Being that made our incredible Universe. I feel such a close relationship with Him sometimes it feels as if I am not worshiping Him at all but just communing with him, but then maybe that is what worshiping is. But I do acknowledge that all this mind boggling, majestic, awesome universe did not just come into being on its own. So I talk to this Being as much as I can. In today's language I would have to say that we are BFF. I acknowledge that there is something far, far greater than I and that I should give thanks for everything that Being has created, not only for me but for all humankind.
I cannot truly say that I wish I had never been a part of this religion, because I feel that I have found the right path for me and a way to purely live, love and enjoy the life that I have been given all because of being truly miserable as a Jehovah's Witness. Actually the twisted teachings and misinterpreted Bible scriptures spurred me on to really research this religion and find how corrupt and untrue this supposed Truth was. And because I felt this way it enabled me to find REAL love and feel connected to all living things. Believe what you will. Follow your Bliss as the Hindus say. Love and accept all others. Cherish and be grateful for this beautiful planet that we live on. Be kind and caring. Have a moral compass. If you feel you must vote for candidates, propositions etc., then do what your heart motivates you to do. We must make the choices that are right for us. We cannot let others do it for us, because we must answer for our own actions.
When I was a Witness all I did was read the Bible and all the WTS literature. Now I only read what I WANT to read and I feel so much closer to my Creator than I did during all those many regimented years as a rule follower and GB worshiper. As I have said for many years, I do not worship an organization I worship God. Whatever His name is.
When our life has run its course, we will find out all the answers. Maybe there will be nothing just as before we were born. But as for me I am looking forward to the greatest adventure of all time.
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What is the most embarrassing thing that ever happened to you at a meeting?
by IHaveADream inmine was the time i had my twin grandsons with me and i was sitting in the overflow room.
they both needed to go potty at the same time.
so i tried to pick both of them up.
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You've all got some pretty embarrassing moments. I got a kick out of all of them. And, Leolaia, I had the same thing happen to a brother I knew many, many years ago. He also confided in the elders and his story was turned into a part at the Circus Assembly. Can't trust those darn elders...except when they want to use the clergy-penitent privilege during a pedophile abuse case. Then there lips are sealed!
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What is the most embarrassing thing that ever happened to you at a meeting?
by IHaveADream inmine was the time i had my twin grandsons with me and i was sitting in the overflow room.
they both needed to go potty at the same time.
so i tried to pick both of them up.
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Hey Aude, I live in Riverside County. Sorry about taking so long to get back to you. I forget where all I have posted.