Posts by StoneWall

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Does anyone recognize the Bethel Elder voice in this short video-audio clip who supposedly went on a shepherding call with a Governoring Body member?

by StoneWall in

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this is most definitely a pro-jw clip from an elder that is being circulated amongst the local congregations near where i'm at.. it's funny how a lot of the things that have been discussed on here have been included in this in some form or fashion but totally revamped to make it slanted to show the governoring body in a more positive light.

such as them not just being a group of men that meet around a table etc.. the voice seems familiar to me and yet i just can't place it.. the link to this clip was shared by some of my more distant extended family members who are still very much in and support the org.

completely.. after hearing this 6 minute clip it still gives me pause to think that just 5 or so years ago, i too would have been one of those listening to this and taking it to heart just because it came from the platform.. makes me even more thankful for each and every day my family and i are no longer slaves to a publishing company.. if you get a chance to view some of the comments on the main page that this is taken from, it's sad to see how many are still under thought/mind control.. anyways if someone does recognize who's voice this is please leave their name on a comment or pm it to me.. it is bugging me because it seems like i should know this elder but can't place him at the moment.. here is the link to the vid/audio:.

StoneWall

BoC yes that thought about how hard they worked every Wednesday almost made me want to laugh.

Most people I know would love to just work to past 5:00 one day a week. (And yet they seem to want praise for this)

The more I listened to this clip the more I'm starting to believe that maybe some from Bethel are really snooping on these sites such as this one and trying to put a positive spin to some of the things the rank-and-file publishers may hear from family or workmates that may hear the information on these sites.

Edited to add: After I went back and looked over the comments on that page, someone mentioned that the speaker was Mozell Mack. If this is true then It's not someone I knew because I don't remember that name. Anyone else know of him ?

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Does anyone recognize the Bethel Elder voice in this short video-audio clip who supposedly went on a shepherding call with a Governoring Body member?

by StoneWall in

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friends

this is most definitely a pro-jw clip from an elder that is being circulated amongst the local congregations near where i'm at.. it's funny how a lot of the things that have been discussed on here have been included in this in some form or fashion but totally revamped to make it slanted to show the governoring body in a more positive light.

such as them not just being a group of men that meet around a table etc.. the voice seems familiar to me and yet i just can't place it.. the link to this clip was shared by some of my more distant extended family members who are still very much in and support the org.

completely.. after hearing this 6 minute clip it still gives me pause to think that just 5 or so years ago, i too would have been one of those listening to this and taking it to heart just because it came from the platform.. makes me even more thankful for each and every day my family and i are no longer slaves to a publishing company.. if you get a chance to view some of the comments on the main page that this is taken from, it's sad to see how many are still under thought/mind control.. anyways if someone does recognize who's voice this is please leave their name on a comment or pm it to me.. it is bugging me because it seems like i should know this elder but can't place him at the moment.. here is the link to the vid/audio:.

StoneWall

This is most definitely a PRO-JW clip from an Elder that is being circulated amongst the local congregations near where I'm at.

It's funny how a lot of the things that have been discussed on here have been included in this in some form or fashion but totally revamped to make it slanted to show the Governoring Body in a more positive light.

Such as them not just being a group of men that meet around a table etc.

The voice seems familiar to me and yet I just can't place it.

The link to this clip was shared by some of my more distant extended family members who are still very much in and support the Org. completely.

After hearing this 6 minute clip it still gives me pause to think that just 5 or so years ago, I too would have been one of those listening to this and taking it to heart just because it came from the platform.

Makes me even more thankful for each and every day my family and I are no longer slaves to a publishing company.

If you get a chance to view some of the comments on the main page that this is taken from, it's sad to see how many are still under thought/mind control.

Anyways if someone does recognize who's voice this is please leave their name on a comment or PM it to me.

It is bugging me because it seems like I should know this Elder but can't place him at the moment.

Here is the link to the vid/audio:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KwjM5D9M1lM

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How long into the future do you feel it will take before the majority of mankind give up on "God" to solve their problems?

by StoneWall in

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i mean the above question out of sincerity and honesty and not trying to belittle anyones beliefs or lack there of.. my point is if armageddon don't happen or the rapture within the next 1000 years or so, how long will man keep holding out hope for a divine being, whether it be jesus, jehovah, allah or "fill in the blank" to come and solve all the problems?.

do you feel that there is a timetable of any sort?.

if god hasn't manifested himself/herself/itself in say 5000 years from now to all mankind, do you think the majority at that time will still be clinging to a belief in a higher power if nothing at all has changed as far as their "appearing,coming, calling us to them etc."?.

StoneWall

I mean the above question out of sincerity and honesty and not trying to belittle anyones beliefs or lack there of.

My point is if Armageddon don't happen or the Rapture within the next 1000 years or so, how long will man keep holding out hope for a divine being, whether it be Jesus, Jehovah, Allah or "fill in the blank" to come and solve all the problems?

Do you feel that there is a timetable of any sort?

If God hasn't manifested himself/herself/itself in say 5000 years from now to all mankind, do you think the majority at that time will still be clinging to a belief in a higher power if nothing at all has changed as far as their "appearing,coming, calling us to them etc."?

In history we can read where others really "believed" in Thor,Zeus,Odin,Ra, Isis etc. Even to the point of willing to die in their name.

Now we may find that laughable or scoff or even ridicule their beliefs but it "evidently" took less than 7000 years for the majority of mankind to lose faith,trust,belief in them.

So what say you? What do you feel would be an appropriate timeframe "if" nothing happens that humans would come to the conclusion that no matter how we got here, that we're on our own?

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Gay scientists Isolate "Christian Gene"

by StoneWall in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qczbnkyxo50.

StoneWall

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCzbNkyXO50

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LOL- For any of you that's seen Katy Perry's video "Firework", check out this Parody

by StoneWall in

this would be funny even without seeing katy perry's original.. but even better if you see the original first.

hahahaha.

enjoy.

StoneWall

leavingwt I sent you a PM in answer to the one you sent me.

To think this video has over 10 million views on youtube.

I figured it would garner more of a reaction from the other guys on here, especially the ones that went through those tough days in public school trying to conceal a "similar reaction".

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what religion are you now?

by deservingone26 in

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its been a while since ive been on how is everyone doing?

but just curious after you left jehovahs witnesses did you look into other religions?

or are any of you currently involved in any other religions now?.

StoneWall

I'm a dudeist.

The more I read about dudeism, the more I realize this is what I was meant to be all my life.

http://dudeism.com/

I bet more of you out there are dudes and dudettes without knowing it yet. But in time you will. :)

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A good argument well won

by DD10 in

hi guy's.

this is my first post on this site - i've just browsed for a few months.

i've not been to the kh or remained in contact with my ex jw "freinds" for a number of years now.

StoneWall

DD10 quoting something you said in your opening post I'll show you a easier way to blow that argument completely out of the water.

DD10 said,

he had to let things occur/ let man rule himself without Gods help and by this he would prove that man couldn't rule himself, then God would put an end to man's/Satans rule".

If this is so, then why did God interfere with man when he was ruling himself and accomplishing great things at the Tower of Babel?

Even in the New World Translation (JW's bible) look how it is worded at Genesis 11:5-9

"And Jehovah proceeded to go down to see the city and the tower that the sons of men had built. 6 After that Jehovah said: “Look! They are one people and there is one language for them all, and this is what they start to do. Why, now there is nothing that they may have in mind to do that will be unattainable for them. 7 Come now! Let us go down and there confuse their language that they may not listen to one another’s language.” 8 Accordingly Jehovah scattered them from there over all the surface of the earth, and they gradually left off building the city. 9 That is why its name was called Ba′bel, because there Jehovah had confused the language of all the earth, and Jehovah had scattered them from there over all the surface of the earth."

Notice how it doesn't say they were fighting or starving or anything else that would reflect bad on them as a people. They "evidently" were working together as one people and united in a common cause. So God went down there and confused their language so that they wouldn't be able to attain everything else. Notice how it even says, there is nothing that is unattainable for them.

Ask any JW why God interfered here if the issue was to see if they could rule themselves.

So it seems that men were governing themselves pretty good at this particular time. And God did intervene if this scripture is true and accurate.

Edited to add: And welcome to the forum. Enjoyed your first post and like your line of reasoning in it about all the test and how many more times are we going to be tested because of a supposed argument in heaven. Hope to hear much more from you in the future.

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LOL- For any of you that's seen Katy Perry's video "Firework", check out this Parody

by StoneWall in

this would be funny even without seeing katy perry's original.. but even better if you see the original first.

hahahaha.

enjoy.

StoneWall

This would be funny even without seeing Katy perry's original.

But even better if you see the original first. hahahaha

ENJOY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui9C5KOmn

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Im trully beside myself..

by Searchn4answrs in

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friends

really do appreciate the excellent info shared on the site...this network of such a dubious bunch, has provided much needed therapy .... .

anyhow,i would like to share my dilemma.... i recently went to court.i petitioned for sole and legal custody and more child support.. i was granted more support,however custody wasnt even reviewed..i prepared extremely well for this hearing.

actually that was my priority.

StoneWall

Searchn4answrs if you have not yet looked over this thread here on JWN, I would highly recommend that you do so.

Notice what the Elder says regarding that packet. Be prepared for them to use every trick in the book against you.

Hope this link helps you.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/203752/1/YouTube-Elder-lies-about-shunning-and-custody-packet

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I'm starting to like pantyhose again :o

by rebel8 in

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i haven't worn pantyhose for ~20 years, except for the odd special occasion in winter.

field service really ruined me for pantyhose.

sitting on those hot sweaty vinyl seats, getting up every so often to go out in the steaming heat....and freezing my jewels off in the winter...omg...i hated hose!!

StoneWall

Do any of your co-workers wear fishnets?

There's just something about a woman in fishnets.

It helps if she has a whip in one hand and a feather in the other. (for bonus points)