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StoneWall
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How do you think this covid-19/corona virus pandemic will affect the way J.W.'s view shunning?
by StoneWall inwe all know that the watchtower (jehovah's witnesses) say the reason for disfellowshipping is to protect the congregation from some uncleanness or threat.so they "quarantine" (shun) those they perceive can spread information that does not agree fully with their teachings/doctrines.it's almost like they want to liken it to a real disease by calling opposers "mentally diseased", "threat" etc.
will the current state of affairs in the world regarding this pandemic strengthen their cause/argument in favor of isolating within their ranks?
i can visualize them in the near future even having parts at the hall or assemblies pointing back to this pandemic and saying something along the lines of "brothers what do you think would happen if we would not have quarantined and stayed away from any that were infected?
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How do you think this covid-19/corona virus pandemic will affect the way J.W.'s view shunning?
by StoneWall inwe all know that the watchtower (jehovah's witnesses) say the reason for disfellowshipping is to protect the congregation from some uncleanness or threat.so they "quarantine" (shun) those they perceive can spread information that does not agree fully with their teachings/doctrines.it's almost like they want to liken it to a real disease by calling opposers "mentally diseased", "threat" etc.
will the current state of affairs in the world regarding this pandemic strengthen their cause/argument in favor of isolating within their ranks?
i can visualize them in the near future even having parts at the hall or assemblies pointing back to this pandemic and saying something along the lines of "brothers what do you think would happen if we would not have quarantined and stayed away from any that were infected?
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StoneWall
We all know that the Watchtower (Jehovah's Witnesses) say the reason for disfellowshipping is to protect the congregation from some uncleanness or threat.So they "quarantine" (shun) those they perceive can spread information that does not agree fully with their teachings/doctrines.It's almost like they want to liken it to a real disease by calling opposers "mentally diseased", "threat" etc.
Will the current state of affairs in the world regarding this pandemic strengthen their cause/argument in favor of isolating within their ranks? I can visualize them in the near future even having parts at the Hall or assemblies pointing back to this pandemic and saying something along the lines of "brothers what do you think would happen if we would not have quarantined and stayed away from any that were infected? If just one person was released back into the populace it could potentially infect others all over again."
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So what are you doing...
by JeffT in...while under house arrest sheltering in place?.
i'm editing a (non jw related) novel i hope to self publish soon.
i may be making an announcement about that in the near future.
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StoneWall
I've been busy working on our Off grid property that we purchased a couple years ago.
It's nice with this quarantine to be able to go out to it and be away from other people for the time being until this covid-19/corona virus thing ends.
Even though our main residence is tied to the power and water grid I'm so much happier when we get out to the off grid property(7+ acres) that has no power lines on it or water meters etc. So much peace,serenity and tranquility out there.Getting back to nature and seeing all the wildlife out there has been such a refreshing and invigorating experience.
The fresh water springs coming out of the mountain side has felt so regenerating to my aging body. Even on the hottest of days that spring water stays cold.Wish we'd got that property back when i was younger so we would have had more years on it.
Guess better late than never I suppose.
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How to jw's handle Luke 6:32?
by carla inall or nothing said this in a previous thread, "we were told the "identifying mark of true christians is this love among the brothers".
it was said in the thread about not being invited to things.. i have seen it many times in re: to jw's.
how do jw's handle luke 6:32 then?
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StoneWall
We all know the scriptures JW's are trained to go to and try show the shunning is a type of love. Here are two of their favorites.I know it's a stretch for them but when you're in and brain-washed it will suffice for the sheeple.
Proverbs 3:12 "because the Lord disciplines those he loves, as a father the son he delights in."
Hebrews 12:6 "because the Lord disciplines the one he loves, and he chastens everyone he accepts as his son.” -
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Would You Ever Go Back To The Witnesses??
by minimus inevery once in a while you hear people say they actually “miss” their old witness friends and or family.
some would have even stayed in the organization if they became a bit more liberal and open minded.
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I would go back on one condition....that WTWizard had to go also and say some stuff at the Hall like he does on here.
Things such as:
Libel instead of Bible
Field circus/field serve us instead of field service
Wash Towel bible and crack society instead of Watchtower bible and tract society
The hounder hounders instead of Elders
Circus overseer instead of Service overseer
Jokehover instead of Jehovah
And many, many more that I've laughed out loud at over the years when reading over his comments.
Just the look on the audience when he says some of these would be worth my gas money on driving to the hall.
But as for going back to stay,no thank you I've built my time in their fantasy land and now and forever more will be free. -
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New Documentary in February 2020
by Disassociated Lady 2 inare any of you aware of this new documentary that is coming out in february?.
https://people.com/crime/jehovas-witnesses-alleged-sex-abuse-oxygen-documentary/?fbclid=iwar3dwbod6ihak4woe7rtv0giknfppgh0mlgs56rtjpse_kdxhcqb4xs6j-o.
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StoneWall
Currently the JW story is featured as the top story at Oxygen.com
For any not familiar with the Oxygen network, Oprah Winfrey has a big stake in it and its founding.
Here is a partial quote from wiki:
"The privately held company Oxygen Media was founded in 1998 by former Nickelodeon executive Geraldine Laybourne, talk-show host Oprah Winfrey, and producers Marcy Carsey, Tom Werner and Caryn Mandabach (of Carsey-Werner fame). ... The channel later began to focus chiefly on reality shows, reruns, and movies." -
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Here in time for the Scary Season are the Slashstreet Boys
by StoneWall inhttps://youtu.be/olicvn7ic68.
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The dangerous species: The True Believer
by Terry inthe age of enlightenment is worth a good look.
(the rise of reason, science, art, philosophy replacing superstition and 'belief.
")for millennia emperors and popes enforced compliance in our world.
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Terry what you stated your grandmother said kind of reminds me of the scripture at Numbers 12:3
Guess who is credited with writing that part of the bible? Yeah Moses.Sounds like your grandmother learned from him.Numbers 12:3 King James Version (KJV)
3 (Now the man Moses was very meek, above all the men which were upon the face of the earth.)
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Anti vaccines
by blisterfeet ini personally feel that vaccinations are beneficial.
there has been a modern movement that vaccinations are more harmful than beneficial to which i disagree.
what is your stance as an ex jw on vaccinating your children?
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StoneWall
Orphancrow I beg to difer with your view.
Let's say I'm "researching" where's the best place to live in the Earth for me.
Ok we all for the most part have access to the same info be it internet,public libraries etc.
After doing my research I come to the conclusion that USA is the best place in the world for me to live based on my criteria. The specific climate,geography,environment,local rules and regulations (laws) and people of that area suit what I was looking for.
Now other people can look at the same info I did and arrive at a different conclusion.
They may say for them that Australia is the best place or New Zealand etc.
Does it mean that I'm right and they're wrong or vice versa or that either of us didn't research the respective places ahead of time before making a decision? Not at all.
As far as my personal observations yes I give them for as the old saying goes the "proof is in the pudding" I observe what goes on around me and what the results are.
In my own case with my family they're three of us me,my wife and son ranging in age from 30 to 52. None of us currently take vaccines/immunizations or haven't in my last 40 years of life.(I did receive my first few to get in grade school long time back but there were a lot less required back then than now)
Out of the 3 of us none are currently on any presciption med's of any type.No anti-depressants,no anti-anxiety no blood pressure etc. I am aware that this can/could change at any time but for the most part we have been very healthy and that is without taking a single vaccine of any type. So why should I/We change?
And once again I reiterate if any of you have taken your vaccine/immunizations and are relatively healthy and have not experienced any adverse effects and are happy with your decision then by all means continue to do so if that's your desire.
At the end of the day that is what it's all about is your health and what you're comfortable with and what seems to work for you.
I choose a different path and so far very happy with it and the results. -
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Anti vaccines
by blisterfeet ini personally feel that vaccinations are beneficial.
there has been a modern movement that vaccinations are more harmful than beneficial to which i disagree.
what is your stance as an ex jw on vaccinating your children?
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StoneWall
blisterfeet as I pointed out on my research I did over the years when I compared vaxxers to anti-vaxxers the anti-vaxxers were for the most part more healthy and were requiring less doctors visits for illnesses/diseases than their counterparts. If your experience was different then that's what you have to go on but not me.
I've got a sister who is turning 60 this year and still has every body part (appendix,tonsils,gall bladder etc. included) She is a Vegan and anti-vaxxer.
My other sister who is 62 is pro-vaxxer and is constantly going to the doctors and having to take presciption meds for various ailments.
As I stated before I can only go on my experience with what I've seen in my life and in my area in research and also look to see which group of people seem to be coping better. I know what I've seen and experienced and what my choice is.