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  Did You Join the Borg to Rescue a Loved One?

  by Ray Skyhorse in

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  i'm not a jw (and never have been) and my wife is in the borg.

  she was assmimilated about 12 years ago.

  i also have a 5 month old son.. my question is, has anyone ever joined the borg with the intent of trying to get a son/daughter/wife/etc.

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  hybridous

  Wow. You are considering a 'suicide mission' of sorts. I don't know anyone who has done this, but that doesen't maen it hasn't happened.

  Just remember, you would have to maintain the facade of all facades. I don't see how anyone could keep that up year after year. And when you get to the point where you can't keep going, it will be tougher on you & your family then if you hadn't started at all.

  I can understand what you want to do, but I don't understand what advantage you would gain by joining. If you or anyone else can think of one, please explain. I think that it would be a tremendous DISadvantage. You are where you want to be (and where you want the family to be)...on the outside. My advice is : don't make things harder than they are already. Do your research, ask the right questions at the right times, but keep your distance from the cult.
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  Anointed?.... Only in your head

  by Patriot in

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  hi to all the old friends.

  its been to long, about a year since my last post as " maverick".

  anyway "hi" to the old timers like amazing, seeker, esmeralda, m2u, truthexodus, unclebruce,worf and many more too many to list.

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  hybridous

  I may be mistaken about this - so someone correct me if I'm wrong, but...

  I think that official WT teaching makes a distinction between 'Annointed' and the FDS. Just because someone, somewhere claims to be 'Annointed', doesen't mean that he/she is given an ounce of consideration by WT leadership (just ask Amazing). I believe that the official WT teaching is : the FDS consists of only those few individuals who sit in positions of WT leadership, not all individuals in all congregations who partake of the bread & wine.

  And really, could they have it any other way? Could you imagine the WT trying to conduct business as usual under constant fire from every nut who believes that their opinion counts?! At least this way - everyone knows where they stand...at the bottom.
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  death and its punishment

  by NinjaBen in

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  if the theory of "when we die god had a meaning for us to go" or "it was our turn to go" does that mean that if i were to kill someone (hypetheticaly speaking) than i was just carrying out gods will and doing his work.. if so why should i be punished.

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  Good question, NinjaBen.

  I have a born-again friend who makes references of 'God calling him when his time is up' - or something along those lines...I guess the implication is that God's Will dictates the time of our death (accidents and otherwise).

  I asked him if this would (logically) extend to ALL people and circumstances, specifically, babies and children who die in car crashes and such. Would God's Will include disasters that claim innocent lives? Because if God chooses the time and circumstance of your death, what about everyone else? He mumbled about how such innocents would go straight to heaven, but no answer to the real question - did God ultimately plan and cause such 'untimely' deaths?

  And he wonders why I don't want to go to his church whith him...
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  Why Mainstreaming Will Win and Reform Won't

  by metatron in

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  sometimes change takes place over many years, in such a subtle.

  and quiet way that those involved may not even discern that a. trend is forming.

  as with social security and retirement issues,.

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  hybridous

  I guess I'm missing the point of metatron's contrast between reform and mainstreaming. If the JW religion 'mainstreams' to the point that it becomes just another Protestant sect, has it not 'reformed' itself? Considering the ultra-conservative attitude of the WT, wouldn't mainstreaming be a reform unto itself? I don't see the difference - someone help me here....
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  Who are these elders???

  by freakshow in

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  having only started to study with a jw she has yet to inform me of these elders, the book she gave me says a little, but after reading this board i see there is more i have yet to learn.

  who are these elders?

  i'm picturing a bunch of old men in velvet purple robes sitting around a circular table.

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  Wowwww, Franc....I was wondering when you were gonna run out of gas on that last post...'bad breath, B.O., mis-matched socks', was great.

  Anyway, Francois is dead on about the children of elders. Typically, they are held up and put on a pedestal for the rest of the congregation's children to be in awe of. They can spit and stammer and trip over their own words in the TMS and door-to-door, but you can be assured that sons of elders will be the first to receive 'privileges' when they're being passed out. Young men who are raised as good JWs, but from a single mom - they don't rate well.

  Elders' kids can be dumb like a rock, or smart and sly like a fox, but it doesen't even matter when they're caught being 'bad', because they aren't held to the same standard of conduct that other kids are. If you're an elder's son, you can get caught lying, stealing, fooling around (sexually), and stumbling around in a drunken stupor, and the 'consequences' will be minimal. If you're from less than the ideal JW family, your personal, spotless record of conduct isn't worth piss when it comes down to it. So, don't be expecting much from the elder and elderette parents who are supposed to be raising a household of exemplary children, it simply isn't that way.

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  Beauty..Where is it? What is it?

  by ISP in

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  what makes someone 'beautiful' to you?

  has it changed over the years, so that you consider something else?

  what attracts you to someone?

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  It is such a cliche, maybe 'cause it's so true, but beauty truely is...'in the eye of the beholder'. Beyond that, nothing else matters.
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  Position on College Changed?

  by Maximus in

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  several have made outright statements and others have suggested that the society's negative position on higher education has changed.

  'the society does not discourage higher education where i live.

  ' worse, 'apostates have made it all up--the society has never discouraged education.

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  hybridous

  Simon - if this could be deleted.....
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  Position on College Changed?

  by Maximus in

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  several have made outright statements and others have suggested that the society's negative position on higher education has changed.

  'the society does not discourage higher education where i live.

  ' worse, 'apostates have made it all up--the society has never discouraged education.

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  hybridous

  Whoops - wrong thread. My apologies.
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  Position on College Changed?

  by Maximus in

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  several have made outright statements and others have suggested that the society's negative position on higher education has changed.

  'the society does not discourage higher education where i live.

  ' worse, 'apostates have made it all up--the society has never discouraged education.

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  Position on College Changed?

  by Maximus in

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  several have made outright statements and others have suggested that the society's negative position on higher education has changed.

  'the society does not discourage higher education where i live.

  ' worse, 'apostates have made it all up--the society has never discouraged education.

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  hybridous

  I think that the official WT Society position is intentionally vague.

  I live in an affluent area, and the local congregation is VERY tolerant of young JWs that aim for college. I would even go so far as to say...it is encouraged. I don't doubt that in other areas, congregations are very intolerant. I guess that the opinions of the local elders do a lot to shape the overall attitude of the congregation. Over here, the elders are either college educated or own very profitable businesses.

  In terms of dollars and cents, I think that the WTS thinks it could profit more from educated JWs. More earnings mean that the JWs have more to give the WTS. Of course, this is a sword that cuts both ways: formally educated JWs are exposed to many ideas, and are perhaps likely to research their beliefs and WT dogma, therby spiraling head-over-heels into the realm of the inexplicable.