this really got to me today at the wt study.. i am not ashamed to admit, i am part of that "generation".. you get one role of the dice in this life, you got to take what you can now, in order to have a good quality life later.. i agree, we need to help and show love to our fellow man.
but, not when this becomes the priority above our own needs, wants and aspirations.. welcome to "generation me" wt, this is my time.. peace out..
child abuse in the usa.
child abuse is the physical, sexual or emotional maltreatment or neglect of a child or children.
in the united states, the centers for disease control and prevention (cdc) and the department for children and families (dcf) define child maltreatment as any act or series of acts of commission or omission by a parent or other caregiver that results in harm, potential for harm, or threat of harm to a child.
Born in...Abused? Yes, absolutely.
Physically,
Psychologically,
And I suspect, sexually, though this had nothing to do with the JW upbringing.
And when I think about it, I can get mad...but then, I had friends who suffered more grievous abuses than I did, and they were not JWs...
hello everyone..... i've been thinking a lot lately, when i have a chance to be alone my mind immediately comes to the topic at hand-- i don't want to die.
what would happen to my precious little girls?
but i'm so scared that it's going to happen.
Once I was past the notion that I would 'Live Forever', I embraced the role of Fatherhood.
Since what the JWs taught/imposed upon me was demonstrably false, I sought another, concrete meaning for my life.
I am hung upon the idea that the role as parent renders you immortal, as the effects for your choices will echo in the world far after you are gone.
There's no need to be afraid of losing life, since your kid(s) will live past you. There's no need FEAR anything, there's only what others have convinced you to be afraid for - most likely to validate their OWN feelings.
i hear it all the time.. people who decide it isn't the truth and leave are said to deep down know they're leaving the truth, choosing instead whatever ideology suits their imperfect desires.
in the new dvd the little kid asks why people believe in evolution and the dad basically says people believe whatever they want.
the actual issue is never actually addresed though: "did life evolve?
For a person committed to reason and rational thinking, I don't see how there's a choice about what to believe...
It may be a delightful notion to suppose that the moon is made of delicious candy, but since plenty of evidence says it's not, what good is a 'belief' that evidence refutes?
I simply can't believe that the moon is made of candy, I can't believe that 2 plus 2 is 5, and I can't believe the claims of the JW religion regarding their exclusive link to the Divine.
a lot of us have said that theres been a dumbing down in jw land.
its just not like it used to be especially a few decades ago.
it seems to me that if jw are right and the end of the world is near, the spiritual food should get tastier and more nourishing as time goes on, but it's getting more and more bland and less nourishing.
Quote: 'There are very likely plenty of intelligent individuals in the organization who - for their own reasons - are selectively "lazy" in their neglect of reasoning.'
Good comment. What they're not accounting for is the fact that such selective 'laziness' carries its own weighty and formidable burden. And even if they percieve it, the hope is that the Kingdom arrives before they give out. Such an insufferable prison...
obama speaks at us war cemetery on d-day landings anniversary.
"united states of america is and will remain the greatest force for freedom the world has ever known.".
on may 28, obama delivered a commencement address to the us armys newest officers at west point, where he argued america would remain an empire forever.. .
Maybe these 'prophesies' are merely geopolitical extrapolations from ages past? Is that what you're getting at, scotoma?
i believe that the older you are the harder it is to leave the watchtower.. .
i am attempting to get a list of ages people learnt the "truth" and what age they left.. .
uun.
Born in and quit at 17. Never baptised, but more-or-less, made an official and deliberate exit.
Spent a decade trying to just 'get over' the abusive childhood. Things didn't improve for me until I went to therapy/counseling. It made a world of difference for me, and I strongly recommend it for exiting JWs.
according to bloomberg news:.
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-04-07/wedding-photographer-rebuffed-by-top-court-on-same-sex-ceremony.
"the u.s. supreme court turned away an appeal from a new mexico wedding photographer found to have violated a state anti-discrimination law when she refused to take pictures of a commitment ceremony for a same-sex couple.. the photographer, elaine huguenin, argued unsuccessfully that she was being unconstitutionally forced to convey a message conflicting with her religious beliefs.
No business is 'open to the public'. It is a private and case-by-case undertaking.
No violence? Just what do you think is the bottom line when the government is involved? That is what the government is - organized violence.
according to bloomberg news:.
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-04-07/wedding-photographer-rebuffed-by-top-court-on-same-sex-ceremony.
"the u.s. supreme court turned away an appeal from a new mexico wedding photographer found to have violated a state anti-discrimination law when she refused to take pictures of a commitment ceremony for a same-sex couple.. the photographer, elaine huguenin, argued unsuccessfully that she was being unconstitutionally forced to convey a message conflicting with her religious beliefs.
Meh...either a person has freedom of association to exersice as they choose, or they don't.
I don't agree with discriminating against gays, but I do rather like the right to exclude toxic cultists from my life.
I don't see that applying the violence of government against someone with a shitty opinion is the best way to change minds.
Not to mention the dangerous notion that your right to your property merely hinges on popular opinion...
i have been on this site lurking for over 2 years and this is my first post, i feel so bottled with emotion that i have to let it out somehow so i do not have an emotional breakdown!
i was raised in the organization and am married with 2 children ages 4 and 2. my wife and i have been inactive for about 2 years and i have always had hard questions that were never answered growing up, such as blood policy and how david and his men were allowed to eat from the bread reserved for the high priests without death penalty since it was life or death.
carbon dating on human remains/tools that date back 30-40k years, far surpassing the 6k year man creation date, the double standards and very real "human" aspect on the organization and its decisions and history.
Good on you for having the honesty to say what you really think. Of course, as a JW, such honesty is unwelcome.
The years spent in the hamster wheel as JW, doing someone else's bidding at great personal cost...those are lost years. A sunk cost. There is no getting it back.
But you can make something out of it and profit from the experience, if you are open to the possibility.
Get as far away from the cult as circumstances will allow. Raise your children, and be happy. Let the experience as a JW impart a sense of value for free-thinking, rationality, and honesty in your life. Because I've seen life minus those things, and frankly, it sucks.
This 'virus' that has ruined my family for a few generations...it ends with me. It goes no further. Because I decided it to be so. I love my kids too much.
You can make the same decision for yours. Love them enough to protect them from the naked awfulness of a JW childhood.
