I'm still an enormous A-hole.
(sadly, said only partly tongue-in -cheek)
hybridous
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A Good Escape Plan.
by Daunt ini'm planning on moving out from my jw parents house in about 7 months.
i'm trying to start a job and i already have a little money going into it (bout 2500 dollars little) however, mainly i just wanted to really know if this was the best course of action.
my parents are the usual jw's but i do love them, however, the pressure is just building up from all their jw reasoning and pressure and guilt trips and all that mess.
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hybridous
Daunt,
You did the smart thing in avoiding baptism, you may be able to retain some relationship with your family who might otherwise shun you had you been baptised.
You've noticed an overwhelming theme in the advise given...make damn sure you get your ass in school and earn your degree, and I will echo that, because it's the most important thing you can do right now.
Take it from someone who's not a whole lot older than you and still wishes he concentrated more on college. Make college priority number ONE. There will be time for fun, girls, and parties along the way. Keep college as your focus, and you'll be glad you did.
Metatron gave good advise as far as the family thing goes. For the sake of your relationship with them, you may have to throw them a JW bone now and again. If they're happy thinking you may come back to the JW fold, let them go on thinking that. If they ask if you've been to meetings and such, tell them what they want to hear. I feel no guilt in lying to people that were intent on having me waste my life for their lies....other people may feel differently, I'm sure.
Do well for yourself. On some level, certain JW parents still feel pride when their kids do well in life, even if those kids are not JWs.
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Newest New Light
by Nosferatu inwhat is the latest "new light" that has been dished out by the wts?
it seems there was an abundance of new light until franz cacked.
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hybridous
The pinata thing -
I remember when I was a kid, pinatas were forbidden as they were linked with birthdays in the Hispanic culture. I'm not Hispanic, I just always wanted to try one out. It seemed like fun - whacking something with a stick until candy rained down.
Not too long ago, a WT or Awake! (can't remember which) pontificated on pinatas and seemed quite tolerant. I noticed the stark contrast between the tone of the article and what had been witness attitudes in years past.
Maybe the WT is trying to make itself more palatable to a growing minority population? Anyways, the reasoning was: don't judge something by its past, judge something for what it is now. Seemed curious, since that line of reasoning dismantles the current prohibition on birthdays. Makes me wonder if there's more New Light around the corner. One can hope, right?! It would make good business sense to make this miserable cult appear more mainstream.
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Anybody here remember the "Lake" Congregation in Rochester NY?
by mapleaf18 inanybody here remember the "lake" congregation in rochester (actually greece) ny?.
this was before it split into the english park and long pond rd.
cong.
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hybridous
I know the area congregations. And I believe that I know the families that helped facilitate the formation of those congregations.
One of those family names is mine.
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"My Life in Hell" - a short story
by AlmostAtheist in"but, but, i'm an atheist!
ah, another one.
i laughed the first thousand or so times i heard it, but it's gotten old.
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hybridous
Very cool. Keep at it!
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What have you discovered on the journey?
by dh in.
the journey being life, what have you discovered that you never expected to... could be a musician, actor, a movie, a type of food, a thought, a realisation, a religion, a thing about your personality or an emotion, a particular song... it could be anything really.... what have you discovered?
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hybridous
There is no spoon...
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Will they ever be mainstream?
by Justin insome religions which have been on the fringe of society are eventually accepted into the mainstream because they have an aspect which is socially acceptable or beneficial to society.
for example, the seventh day adventists have hospitals and the mormons have the tabernacle choir.
but the jws seem to have nothing with which to appeal to the larger culture.
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hybridous
Good points here, but I see the other side as well...
As corporate interests become paramount to the WT, other ideas may be forced to take a back seat. A business's main objective is to perpetuate itself and generate profit, and according to most casual observations, the WT isn't doing too well in that regard.
How long before some important people in the WT decide to try something in order to stop bleeding money and people? A shuffle towards mainstream here and there, and maybe some fringe members can catch their breath and continue on. In short, I believe that the WT simply MUST move in that direction to improve marketability and encourage growth. Growth in 3rd world countries where people are dirt poor doesen't do the WT much good. They need members with money.
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John 18 Quid est veritas? - Who was right: Pilate or Jesus?
by Pole init's a doctrinal question.
of course the gospel of john may have been written by someone who made this conversation up.
but let's assume it really did take place between pilate and jesus christ.. john 1837"you are a king, then!
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hybridous
Perhaps oversimplified...but,
I believe that Pilate was indicating to Jesus that any 'truth' that Jesus offered could be challenged or refuted. Pilate was basically denying that there are any concrete, irrefutable truths, or facts, if you prefer.
I could state that the sky is blue, but if someone is disposed to argument, they could come up with a variety of reasons explaining why the sky is not blue. It all comes down to a basis of diaglogue. If there is no area of agreement on anything, no meaningful dialogue or exchange could occur.
Basically, I take from it that Pilate was telling Jesus that there was nothing meaningful he could say to him, because or a difference in assumptions about the nature of reality.
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E-watchman's brand new discussion forum
by Schizm inhttp://www.e-watchman.com/discussion/
that's the link.
you all better get right on over there now and register.
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hybridous
I think that e-watchman and his little online congregation are great. They're like termites - destroying the building from the inside out.
I think he will indeed write that book, simply because his ego demands it. Let him and his followers try to show that book to friends at the KH...WHAM....more DFings. Eventually, (if this hasn't happened already), the WT will be forced to pull the trigger on him.
Then we'll see what e-watchman is REALLY all about. He'll go down kicking and screaming all the way, but it will be a losing battle. No doubt he will seeth and stew in his own juices until he ascends to the rank of Apostate General. What a little monster the WT cult has created.
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DFd/DAd persons and "apostate" literature
by kj incan anyone tell me if associating with dfd/dad people or reading "apostate" literature is a disfellowshipping offense?
is it one of those unwritten rules, or is there something written about it in the wt?
kj
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hybridous
I've known of witnesses who we're 'caught' reading apostate literature. They were warned not to continue, and were certainly 'marked', but if they kept to themselves they were OK. No DF/DA action taken.
Elders have privately told individual dubs that they can read whatever they want, the problems start when it goes public in the hall.