If you sum up all the latest changes, it is a mark towards a new era.
Hi there -
This comment is quite interesting to me...I was hoping you could elaborate.
Thanks,
HYBRIDOUS
the much looked for (or so it seems) announcement coming to the finale of a watchtower study near you, may just be the thing about the book study and if so due to the time of year it is (at least in the northern hemisphere) it would make a fine opportunity for one and all in the congregation to meet say 6-6:30pm to participate in the field circus.
that way more people would be a home and therefore there would be more people to (irritate) talk to.
who knows, whatever it is, if it is in fact a change, it won't be for the betterment of the rank and file publisher.
If you sum up all the latest changes, it is a mark towards a new era.
Hi there -
This comment is quite interesting to me...I was hoping you could elaborate.
Thanks,
HYBRIDOUS
i told my parents that do not want anything to do with jw's when i was 15, i stopped going to meeting (not that i was really going anyway), stopped going to assembly, even stopped the memorial.
at first it was guilt trips, crying, the whole what did we do wrong why are you doing this.
then the threats started, i will pull you out of public school and get rid of all your worldly friends that are a bad association, then it was well if you want to act like an adult then all you get is room and one meal a day we do not support those who turn their backs on jehovah.
I hope you are moving on with life, it's hard sometimes to not think about our childhood and how we really didn't have a childhood. You know JW children are not children they are little publishers, you are not allowed to be a child. That's the dangerous part, because if you don't get out young you grow up physically but not mentally or emotionally and are unable to function or find it hard to function as an adult in the real world. I don't want to generalize but I think JW's who grow up in and stay in tend to be very naive about life in general. There are exceptions of course and I do think that anyone can adjust with time. It's just a shame to learn the thing you should have learned as a teenager at age 30.
I'm still trying wrap my mind around this statement....
There is something very, very different about us who were raised 'in' and got out...
i have been a fader now for 4 years , and at this point my witness family pretty much leaves me alone in that they don't try to push their beliefs on me anymore !
at first they did, the first 6 months or so.
my daughters showed me a video of korah talking against aaron, etc.
How did it go? Ha!
They were all over me like files on shit. I had to beat them off with a stick!!
Just kidding (mostly). My people mostly 'get the hint' and tread lightly where I am. When they forget themselves, I put them in their place.
That's the only way this works. If you let them walk over you or browbeat you, you are a lost person. If you stand up to them and ridicule their nonsense (notice I didn't say to ridicule THEM), you may be able to enjoy a relationship on equitable terms.
mitt romney is running for president of the united states.
i see one big problem with electing a mormon as president.
doing so will give much more respectability to the mormon church.
Hi Shawn,
Yes, I believe that the Mormon religion is crazy. It's a particular brand of crazy that less harmful than the JW brand, in my opinion. The particular reasons for that have been pointed out already.
By all means, if that alone disqualifies him, I would urge you to act on your opinion and find someone you'd be comfortable with.
mitt romney is running for president of the united states.
i see one big problem with electing a mormon as president.
doing so will give much more respectability to the mormon church.
I think that the greater political success Romney has, the more damaging it is to his cult religion.
The one thing all cults fear is scrutiny. The more publicity Romney has, his religion of choice will also experience a corresponding amount of publicity and scrutiny.
Think about it...an undecided voter hears Romney's name and maybe a few points from his platform. This voter looks a little deeper to see if this guy is someone worthy of consideration. Somewhere along the way, Mormonism is going to come up, and this voter actually wants to know what it means to be a Mormon.
And now the cat is outta the bag...Mormonism, complete with it's shady history and nutty beliefs is now on the table for examination.
This hypothetical individual might even like Mitt Romney and agree with his platform, but what is done cannot be undone. One more person knows about Mormonism and probably read material from Mormon 'Apostates'. Cults thrive on ignorance, and a cultist politician does the most harm by opening his religion up to examination.
I'm a Republican, and I won't vote for Romney. It has nothing to do with religion. It's because he resembles a used-car salesman
christian witnesses of jah .
come now the christian witnesses of jah.
that is why it must be our purpose to not serve jah or jesus by pleasing men.
Yeah, yeah...Stafford...King....they're all nuts. Idiots, even!!
Some idiots are quite useful.
If this religion dies by a thousands cuts, it's still a good thing.
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hello all, happy sunday to you!!.
just read quandrys post about the 2007 annual meeting notes.
this comment made during that meeting just got under my skin, so i decided to start a thread to show the dictionarys definition of both of the words.
They have created a distinction without a difference.
They want the authority of actually being INSPIRED,
Without the accountability of acutally being INSPIRED.
The Bible they claim to hold so dear...offers NO EXAMPLES of this so called 'Spirit-direction'.
Either an individual is INSPIRED, or he is not. There's no 'in-between'.
seems to me that the primordial religion, if it could be called that, is a form of paganism that has pantheism, animism and shamanism.
also, it may contain sun worship.
in this 'religion', they felt a connection w the land, had respect for nature and the animals.
Seems to me that the primordial religion, if it could be called that, is a form of paganism that has pantheism, animism and shamanism. Also, it may contain sun worship.
In this 'religion', they felt a connection w the land, had respect for nature and the animals. They often explained or apologised to the animals that they had to kill for food. This form was practiced around the globe, on all continents and islands. Is this the true religion? Or, does it make more sense that later, more developed, what could be called proper religions are more correct? Which form is more compatible w science?
Good summary by Satanus.
I would offer that the origional religion of humanity had prevailing themes of recognition of the duality of the universe. Man/Female, Yin/Yang, Hot/Cold, Light/Dark.
What these ancient people knew, was that achieving balance between these two dualities resulted in LIFE. A good thing!!
This is what they worshiped...LIFE.
i'm not an inspired prophet - nevertheless, let me tell you what the future will be for ordinary, middle.
class people in the united states:.
inflation is going to accelerate and making a living for families is only going to get more difficult.. the real standard of living in the us may fall.
I agree with everything that's been said here. But it's hard to imagine anything other than an directly proportional relationship beween college eduation and corresponding earning power, and money available to donate to the WT.
Even the people that run the Tower have to know this. By championing the briefest (and least) possible eduaction for JWs, the WT is effectively shooting itself in the foot.
Unless of course, they have performed a cost-benefit analysis, and determined that it's better to have broke JWs who can't reason, rather than better-off JWs who might reason and leave.