While reading the thread about the JW elder clearing his conscience, I had the thought...
While taking everyone's experiences in the JW ORG at face value, we all certainly had different influences present around us concerning education.
It is clear to me that within the JW ORG, there is a spectrum running from hard-liners to very liberal, in this particular matter.
My question is, what does this do to the JW ORG over time?
I can only guess that this dynamic would tend to stratify things. Liberal families who allow(encourage?) their children to get a college education might not retain their kids in the ORG, but the ones who stay would tend to have better careers; make more money, then the ones whose eschewed higher education.
Families who 'got the message' would tend to stagnate, and the ones who didn't would, more-or-less, drift upward. I could see this breeding some real resentment within congregations.
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Differing views of education in the JW cult
by hybridous inwhile reading the thread about the jw elder clearing his conscience, i had the thought.... .
while taking everyone's experiences in the jw org at face value, we all certainly had different influences present around us concerning education.. .
it is clear to me that within the jw org, there is a spectrum running from hard-liners to very liberal, in this particular matter.
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Wishful thinking? Will WTBS ever go down?
by MC RubberMallet ini see it posted that many are 'waking up' etc.
but the religion is still growing!
many enjoy the kool-aid.
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Aye, but I think that the RCC has demonstrated a survival instinct by a willingness to bend with the times, and not care so much about what its members think and say and do.
I do not see this adaptability in the WT Organization. I think they will weather the storms much more poorly. -
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Potential Panic About Gold
by metatron inhttp://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-09-23/gold-counterfeiting-goes-viral-10-tungsten-filled-gold-bars-are-discovered-manhattan.
there have been wild rumors about the world's gold reserves for years - being faked with tungsten.
this latest discovery, involving some reputable dealers, could start a panic.. metatron.
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Yes, I speak in a very general sense - the creation of money divorced from productive economic activity...
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Potential Panic About Gold
by metatron inhttp://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-09-23/gold-counterfeiting-goes-viral-10-tungsten-filled-gold-bars-are-discovered-manhattan.
there have been wild rumors about the world's gold reserves for years - being faked with tungsten.
this latest discovery, involving some reputable dealers, could start a panic.. metatron.
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hybridous
hoser,
Yes, I guess the same concerns are at work. In Zimbabwe , the FRN or Euro are viewed as preferable when the Zimbabwe dollar (now suspended due to hyperinflation) is the alternative.
The thing is, the issues that torpedoed the Zimbabwe dollar are still very much real and in play for the FRN and the Euro. There's nothing 'hard' about the FRN except a military that can topple foreign governments and the US Government's willingness to use it. -
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Potential Panic About Gold
by metatron inhttp://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-09-23/gold-counterfeiting-goes-viral-10-tungsten-filled-gold-bars-are-discovered-manhattan.
there have been wild rumors about the world's gold reserves for years - being faked with tungsten.
this latest discovery, involving some reputable dealers, could start a panic.. metatron.
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hybridous
Point of interest, R. Paul is not an advocate of re-linking the dollar to gold, per se.
He's an advocate of legalizing alternate currency, to compete side-by-side with FRN. Presumably, a new legal currency would be commodity based, in some fashion, giving us savers a place to store our purchasing power, while the FRNs are inflated into oblivion... -
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Would You Listen To A Prayer From A JW And Say Amen If They Said A Prayer In Your Presence?
by minimus inmy mom has had visits from various jws and they have asked her if they could say a prayer before they left.
i respectfully listened to the prayers while i was visiting and might silently say amen if i felt the prayer was appropriate for my mom.. i'm just curious, how would you handle this type of situation?.
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I had a very dear JW grandparent die recently.
The Memorial Service contained a beautiul EULOGY to their life and personality. I was happily...shocked!
Of course, at the end was the 'reminder', 'plea', what-have-you...to get right with God, as my grandparent did. But it was far from heavy-handed advertisement we have growm accustomes to in the KH. It was more of an obligatory gloss-over, if anything.
This one elder....I don't know why he did what he did. He broke from the script, and did an absolutely wonderful thing for my family.
I, of course, have different opinions concerning JW doctrine/beliefs - but at the concluding prayer, I said 'AMEN'. And I meant it. And I'd do it again. -
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Minumim wage may go to $10 per hour...
by darthfader ini understand the reasons for the desire to raise the minimum wage, but as a small business owner, i'll have to raise prices to keep my margins profitable.
a 30% hit is pretty substantial.. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/07/business/bill-pushes-for-increase-in-wages.html.
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Why all this farting around with these piecemeal increases? Why not just make it somewhere from $15 to $20 bucks per hour and guarantee decent wages for everyone employed?
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Ron Paul from the top rope!
by Diest ini hate his social views, but thats not what will bring this country to its knees.
his new ad really has me thinking.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkfus6gfxpy.
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A Moment Of Truth For 'Illuminati' Types!
by metatron insometimes i post here because i don't know where else i should post, as to odd or unusual ideas.
there seem to be quite a lot of people on the internet who zealously believe that the world is covertly ruled by some conspiracy or masonic lodge or bilderberg group or intelligent reptiloid aliens who dress up as the british royal family ( i imagine an alien complaining, 'why do i have to be queen elizabeth?').
in other words, a bunch of powerful people who control everything.. well, it seems to me that we are approaching a moment in which we will see just how much control any such group really has.
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Not to mention, this goes along way in explaining why every decision made regarding these instutions just further commits to stepping off the cliff.
We sit here like buffoons and shake our heads and scream: 'Don't they see they're committing suicide?! This can't continue forever! Don't they see it?!'
Um, yeah...they do. It's intentional.
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A Moment Of Truth For 'Illuminati' Types!
by metatron insometimes i post here because i don't know where else i should post, as to odd or unusual ideas.
there seem to be quite a lot of people on the internet who zealously believe that the world is covertly ruled by some conspiracy or masonic lodge or bilderberg group or intelligent reptiloid aliens who dress up as the british royal family ( i imagine an alien complaining, 'why do i have to be queen elizabeth?').
in other words, a bunch of powerful people who control everything.. well, it seems to me that we are approaching a moment in which we will see just how much control any such group really has.
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Met,
You seem to be resting upon the presumption that such 'Illuminati' would be/are using existing mechanisms and structures to wield and increase their power. Therefore, we can see that the visible life span of these institutions are quite limited, so why would people bent on power employ broken tools....is that a fair paraphrase?
I am challenging the first presumption, that any such group plans to use the existing structures and mechanisms. There is enough of a dependent class of humanity that upon the failure of these existing institutions, will wholly attach themselves to that which rises in their stead. Get it? It's not about the banks and goverments you see now.
It's about what fills the vacuum after these fall.