what do you guys think of this?
me.... http://www.vhemt.org/.
vhemt (pronounced vehement) is a movement not an organization.
Mythbuster, I think the article you quoted is very sick. It is disturbing that there are groups that will attempt to manipulate thinking in this direction.
One thing kinda made me think of WT.
"When every human chooses to stop breeding, Earth's biosphere will be allowed to return to its former glory, and all remaining creatures will be free to live, die, evolve"
Doesn't WT promote that there will not be marrying in the new system, and thus, no procreation?
the image above.
this is an illustration from the book of hours (horus) from a netherland edition, circa 1500. .
the lore.
Why does the angel hold two hunting dogs?
Why is one black and one white? Do these colors have any symbolic meaning?
What is that dang splat in the background?
Can anyone make out a story being told in this picture?
If you had only this picture book and had to make up an entertaining story based solely on this image....what would the story be?
Tell me a story.
if you're the kind of person who would rather convince yourself that someone isn't "deserving" of your help... which may include your money... even an amount as small as $3.00... the wtbts was the right group to be a part of.
because they have every excuse under the sun for not giving to the poor... not helping out someone in need... not even giving a hungry one a meal (because we know, don't we, that every one of them is an alcoholic and/or drug addict... and everyone knows... particularly the wtbts... that those folks... those sinners... don't deserve to eat at all...).
looks like some of have learned well from them.
Alice.in.wonderland: "Jehovah's Witnesses pay taxes without complaining so what's the problem?"
Isn't it funny they do that? They don't vote and yet they still pay taxes?
Where is their representation?
when i was a jw, i thought this referred to private reproof, public reproof, or disfellowshipping.
in light of a recent conversation concerning the true meaning of justice and the balance between mercy and judgment, i would like to know what your thoughts are regarding his disciplinary "methods" and heb.
12..
If something good happens---God is rewarding you.
If something bad happens----Satan is tempting you, punishing you.
If something bad happens---sometimes its not Satan, it's just God "disciplining" you.
Sheesh. Until people can learn to take personal responsibility for their actions and for the ensuing results of their actions, they will never know what discipline is all about.
I suspect some people think of discipline in terms of making the meeting on time four nights a week. Where that actually has nothing to do with SPIRITUAL disciplines.
may you all have peace!.
some years ago posters on a predecessor site to jwn put forth the allegation that i was starting my own church.
very recently, allegations have been made that i am forming a cult/trying to pull together an exclusive group.
Voices: "we ADD our own SELF PROJECTION on that person. Then accuse that person of being mean, rude, arrogant...wanting to start a cult/church... when in actuality its just trying to be encouraging."
Uh, nobody "accused" Shelby of "wanting to start a cult/church".
Shelby implied she's doing so by announcing it in this title. No denying it.
MY Cult, "Exclusive Group"
In her own words.
No one else you can blame this "rumor" for.
Brazen Shelby has started her own clamor.
Yes, Shelby has "come out from among" the ex-JW riff raff and announced her lofty ambitions and "extra super specialness'.
i've spoken with a number of jw's in the past who have told me that they believe the h. spirit only indwells the 144,000 (obviously contradicted by romans 8:8-9).
however, the jw i am presently trying to convert caught me a little off guard by telling me he was unaware of this doctrine (he's been a jw for 40-years) and that he understood it to be that all believers are indwelt by the h. spirit.
is he simply misinformed about his own organisations teachings here?
Baptized in the Name of Who and What?
Pg 14/par 16: Similarly, one who is baptized in the name of the holy spirit recognizes that the holy spirit is not a person, but Jehovah's active force.
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So, according to the Watch Tower, what IS the NAME of the holy spirit? Jahchque Misheuewah?
the image above.
this is an illustration from the book of hours (horus) from a netherland edition, circa 1500. .
the lore.
I agree that the horn is phallic.
I have read that the horn represents a crown in bible symbolism. Like for instance the allegory in Revelation which tells of a beast with ten heads and the horns and is then later said to represent ten kings or kingdoms. So, it's very possible in that light that the horn of a Unicorn could also be symbolic of a crown.
Like I said, there's no right or wrong answers here.
We are just playing with interpretations.
What is that splat in the background?
may you all have peace!.
some years ago posters on a predecessor site to jwn put forth the allegation that i was starting my own church.
very recently, allegations have been made that i am forming a cult/trying to pull together an exclusive group.
here's a deal for you, Dread
Another annointed one
prolly a lot more snakes on the pole ($$$$) in being a "Stripper for God"
may you all have peace!.
some years ago posters on a predecessor site to jwn put forth the allegation that i was starting my own church.
very recently, allegations have been made that i am forming a cult/trying to pull together an exclusive group.
Aguest: " Please let me assure you now... that if it takes ANYONE 15 years to get ONE person to "follow" them... they really need to stop "walking."
So is this an admission that you have accumulated one follower?
Aguest: "Believe me, the message I share here would make FAR more headway among the poor folks, disabled people, drug dealers, homeless, prostitutes, gang bangers, elderly, criminals... and "faithful"... right in my own backyard. "
So, basically your audience would be people who are stoned outta their minds, or senile, mentally ill, or have a lot of time on their hands just sitting on the street waiting for the candy man to come around
AGuest: "AND... they would pay for it. Indeed, some of them would give their LAST dime to hear what is being given to YOU... free"
Most of that crowd will be saving that last dime for a rock. I really have my doubts about them paying to hear you talk.
Aguest: " I AM the church... a living stone in the temple of God..."
You might be a stone, but it's still not the same as a rock.
i've spoken with a number of jw's in the past who have told me that they believe the h. spirit only indwells the 144,000 (obviously contradicted by romans 8:8-9).
however, the jw i am presently trying to convert caught me a little off guard by telling me he was unaware of this doctrine (he's been a jw for 40-years) and that he understood it to be that all believers are indwelt by the h. spirit.
is he simply misinformed about his own organisations teachings here?
The Watchtower, March 15th, 1991, Page 22:
In the first century C.E., when a general invitation was going out to seek entrance into the heavenly Kingdom, not all anointed Christians held positions of responsibility as members of the governing body or as elders or ministerial servants. Many were women, and they had no special authority;
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This is the biggest pile of horseshit I have ever read. Where is their history of the Watchtower lineage to prove these words that there was the existence of a WT governing body in the first century? Unless they are referring to something that they have not yet revealed. Perhaps their GB stems from Rome and the Papacy? Or perhaps from the Knights Templar?
And are they alluding to the notion that the WT sent out this "general invitation" to enter heaven? And many of the annointed were women? If so, how did their views of women change so drastically over the years?
The Watchtower, March 15th, 1991, Page 22:
Those with the heavenly calling do not view themselves as prominent individuals, and they do not draw attention to their being anointed ones. Rather, they manifest the humility rightly expected of those having “the mind of Christ.”
Professing to have a heavenly calling does not bring a person special revelations.
Well, if that is true it looks like a couple of the professed annointeds on this board just got knocked out of the running!
