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  The Swiss TV Program will be aired worldwide in December

  by Nick! in

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  the swiss tv program grandir avec jehovah will be aired worldwide next month, between the 6th and the 21st .. hereafter is the calendar of the events:.

  date (paris time) tv station .

  06.12.2010 12:05:00 tv5 africa .

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  What is this program about? Can you give a short synopsis?
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  A Special Xmas Thread for WTWizard

  by cameo-d in

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  wtwizard is crazy about christmas.

  he talks about xmas all year long because he soooo looks forward to the big ado of decorating.

  he loves the lights and the tinsel and the smells of scotch pine and cinnamon.

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  WTWizard is crazy about Christmas. He talks about Xmas all year long because he soooo looks forward to the big ado of decorating. He loves the lights and the tinsel and the smells of scotch pine and cinnamon. It has been rumored that he doesn't take his Christmas lights down until the snow melts.

  Anyway, I thought it would be fun to have a special thread of Christmas interest for WTWizard and any others who find this pagan holiday so exciting.

  I'll start with Christmas Trees around the world, and you all can just jump in with your favorite things, whether it's customs and traditions, foods, decorations, songs, whatever.

  This website gives a slide show of Xmas trees from different countries and a short blurb about what makes Xmas different or unusual in that particular country. Also some photos give close-ups of the ornaments. Enjoy!

  http://easteuropeanfood.about.com/od/christmaseve/ig/Christmas-Trees/xmastreesmain.htm
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  Nobody forced us to believe. We CHOSE to follow their crap advice.

  by hamsterbait in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  have you noticed that the recent trolls are now claiming that if anybody drew conclusions or made decisions based on what the society was printing, it was their own fault?.

  kind of "we didn't force you to believe what we said or adjust your life because of it.

  you chose to think we were teaching the end would come in <insert time range>".

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  Before the internt I think most people were truly stuck in it. Especially born-ins. Even if your conscience told you something was "not right" you had no one you could really talk to about. You were kept confined from associating with anyone who was not a member, so there was no one on the outside who could see things objectively that you could discuss your troubles with. You couldn't talk to JW parents or friends because you knew they would "turn you in" or you would become suspect of "going against Jehovah" for even questioning the doctrine or the dictates.

  And even if you wanted to get out....no one really knew how. There was no procedure except to do something you knew they would kick you out for. I wonder how many may have deliberately gone that route? You would be on you own, out in the cold, and made to feel guilty for "turning your back on God" when that was not even the case at all. There was no support system for anyone who wanted to leave and the burden of guilt unjustly put on you, well, you would probably believe whatever they said about you was probably true. Why? Because one major tactic of all religions is using guilt to coerce people back into line. Thus the "tough love" shunning. Which I think is actually a faulty psychology that backfires.

  Even when this website started and people began to realize that they could ask questions without stigma because for the first time because they could be anonomous, it wasn't until certain evidence of WT transgressions appeared that people finally felt they had a "legitimate" excuse to pull out.

  Part of the reason you "had no choice" before was no proof of their mind bending and lies. You knew it intuitively, but still, there needed to be some concrete "proof" that you could cite in order to feel justified among your loved ones and also to deflect the guilt that would be put on you as a "traitor". You needed back-up; documentation. Some kind of evidence that was real so you couldn't be told it was your imagination, your fault, your erroneous perspective of things.

  Sometimes it appears we have no choice because we don't know the procedures required to extract ourselves. There are no guidelines to exit. It is something you have to invent for yourself. All of you have "done good" to get out of it.
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  Nobody forced us to believe. We CHOSE to follow their crap advice.

  by hamsterbait in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  have you noticed that the recent trolls are now claiming that if anybody drew conclusions or made decisions based on what the society was printing, it was their own fault?.

  kind of "we didn't force you to believe what we said or adjust your life because of it.

  you chose to think we were teaching the end would come in <insert time range>".

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  Nice Dream: I wonder what trolls would say about born-ins? Born-ins really didn't have a choice.

  Yes, you have all been bullied, pressured, and threatened. Threatened with the loss of love from your families through shunning if you do not cooperate and obey their dictates. Did you ever have a choice? You have a conscience. And if you listen to it, you know what is right and what is wrong. You were coerced to put aside your conscience and do as told. None of us have ever needed man made religions. We were born with a conscience and that's all we have ever needed.

  The real problem with choice is that it is costly. The story of Jesus shows you that telling the Truth cost him his life. When you go against the pressures put on you by a cult, you will certainly loose something...family, friends, security. But the longer you stay in the more you will really loose because you will loose your soul and become a zombie. Somewhere along the line, the resistence to the conflict between conscience and blind obedience becomes so difficult on a subsconscience level that one turns off their conscience in order to continue on. It seems to be that at that point they completely turn over their minds to the plays that are being used on them.

  Yes, you do have a choice and have had a choice all along. But the choice will cost you dearly. Some people only realize they had a choice in hindsight. Those of you who have been fortunate enough to escape, now know the cost of that choice. But you have used self determination and you have let you conscience lead the way.

  This should be a strong wake-up call to anyone who is still in and who has ever had doubts. Fact is, WT is crumbling and it is going to be a rude awakening to many people who have chosen to go against their conscience and better judgement. Because on that last day, WT will laugh in their faces and those who followed them will be the ones to look around and suddenly realize what they have lost and how they caused others to suffer so much because they did not do what was truly right and truthful to themselves.
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  Nobody forced us to believe. We CHOSE to follow their crap advice.

  by hamsterbait in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  have you noticed that the recent trolls are now claiming that if anybody drew conclusions or made decisions based on what the society was printing, it was their own fault?.

  kind of "we didn't force you to believe what we said or adjust your life because of it.

  you chose to think we were teaching the end would come in <insert time range>".

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  The mags are not written by a bunch of old farts sitting around in the boardroom. This cult is an Illuminati operation and the mags are written by master psychologists. I knew eventually they would turn it around and tell people that YOU are the ones who decided to interpret the literature that way. It is becoming more blatant now. It was more subtle earlier when they distanced themselves from the various congregations and "left the discipline matters" up to the local elders.
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  So..Is Anyone Able to Contact" beksbks" ?

  by Justitia Themis in

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  she and i have emailed back and forth on this site several times, and i am going to be in so.

  cal the first week in december for my daughter's swearing in to the california bar.

  i would like to see beksbks if possible.. if someone would contact me...or her...that would be great.

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  Suggest a coffee maker, please

  by cameo-d in

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  i can expect my coffee pots to malfunction usually about the time the year warranty runs out.

  i have gotton the coffeemakers at jip*lmart for the last 10 years or more; none have lasted much longer than a year..ok maybe 18 months at the most.. anyway, since it stopped brewing, i have just been pouring hot water from stovetop over the coffee grinds....sort of the melita way, but it doesn't exactly f l o w like a melita.. i would like to have something non-electric like melita, but i hate that name now because it reminds me of jacarass's ill tempered wife.. can anyone recommend a good coffee maker?.

  also, do you find any difference in the quality of a name brand product when it's sold at jip*mart as opposed to a place more upscale?.

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  My cheapo Sunbeam is 15 years old and still going strong.

  BTS

  Is it a drip? A perc? Can you describe it?
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  Questions

  by cameo-d in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  wasn't john the baptist supposed to be six months older than jesus?.

  does anyone know the time frame between death of john the baptist and jesus?.

  regarding john baptist, this is from wiki:.

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  Suggest a coffee maker, please

  by cameo-d in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i can expect my coffee pots to malfunction usually about the time the year warranty runs out.

  i have gotton the coffeemakers at jip*lmart for the last 10 years or more; none have lasted much longer than a year..ok maybe 18 months at the most.. anyway, since it stopped brewing, i have just been pouring hot water from stovetop over the coffee grinds....sort of the melita way, but it doesn't exactly f l o w like a melita.. i would like to have something non-electric like melita, but i hate that name now because it reminds me of jacarass's ill tempered wife.. can anyone recommend a good coffee maker?.

  also, do you find any difference in the quality of a name brand product when it's sold at jip*mart as opposed to a place more upscale?.

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  my italian friend used to use these perculating contraptions on her stove.

  But isn't that aluminum?

  I do not use aluminum or teflon equipment!

  Great little pot. But too bad if it only comes in aluminum.

  nelly: you could use a spice grinder or liquidiser to grind your beans for now.

  They sell the beans and have grinder machine there at the grocery store. So that's no big deal. It's just that I have a large can of coffee I had just opened that is basically a fine ground coffee for drip (or perc). It will not work with the French Press.
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  Jw explanation on Nephilim Gen;6:4 And Numbers 13:33

  by jam in

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  a few months ago two jw women caught me unexpectedly, so they talk about the.

  usual jw none sense.

  the nite before i was reading and researching the nephilim.. more proof to disclaim the flood.

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  Have you ever considered that "falling" is not a bad thing?

  I think the angels falling has been confused with the idea of "fallen man".

  Perhaps to fall, simply means they came. And to "fall" would indicate that they came from a higher realm. The word fall may not have any negative implication whatsoever.

  The angels fell, or came to the earth, because some disturbance happened...and they seeded this planet in order to be hopeful for the continuity of species.

  There is a theory that the earth itself is actually "the ark" of Noah. That plant and animal species were brought here from other planets and galaxies in order to save them from this galactic threat, whatever it was, that has been symbollically described as a flood. The flood may not have occured on this planet. This planet was the refuge; what could be salvaged was brought here.

  It is man who has actually "fallen" in the negatve sense of the word. We were given dominion over the planet--to cultivate and tame it. And we have failed in our responsibilities. We have done little but engage in war and fight over possessions that we should all be sharing with one another. We have given our personal authority to allow others to take control of all the natural resources and dole them out haphazardly. We have treated natural resources like they are endless, and yet some are not renewable. We have done little more than destroy the planet we were given as a gift.

  The Nephilim found a way to seed our human being creation. Hu, being the god particle within the man being. They gave us their last hope.